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I,m looking to upgrade to a newer computer. I,m thinking I should have 500 memory? to handle the furture and 4gig ram? prosesser duel ok or will quad be better fot the future of biab? My old pc is having a time with realtracks all of the sudden. I've defarged my songs are lockin up I have 3 shows this week I need a back up?

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How much do you want to spend, can you build it yourself, or do you want an off the shelf solution.

Intel i5 or i7 Quad Core, or AMD FX Multi-Core, 8GB of RAM, 2-4 750 GB hard drives (at least two, one for your system and programs, one for data storage, i.e., all your Real Track .wav files.

The more hard drives you have, the more space for tracks and for back up of tracks.

Weekly defrag, don't let any drive get below 20% capacity, and make sure you're running Windows 7 64 bit.

What sound card do you have, and do you need a PCI slot for it?

One of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883157330

At least one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

You'll be set for a while.

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Since jt3 needs this computer for shows, and the specs are not large, I'm thinking he/she may be looking for a laptop? But I'm having a lot of trouble reading the question.


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I'm not clear with the question either. But for gigging, I recommend Lenovo ThinkPad laptops. I get an average of 8 years of use out of them, on stage, being abused, doing one-nighters (always hard on equipment) before they become too old to gig with.


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I'm not clear with the question either. But for gigging, I recommend Lenovo ThinkPad laptops. I get an average of 8 years of use out of them, on stage, being abused, doing one-nighters (always hard on equipment) before they become too old to gig with.




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sorry I guess I didn,t make myself clear. Yes a laptop is what a am using now and that would be the easiest. I will replace with it with a something 500g on up I found one with 4 g ram can up grade to 8. right now I have 320 with 100 free space I think 3 g ram. It is a compac it started giving me fits a couple months back. Someone told me to defrag more often and restart every hour in a 4 hour show worked great but now was working great shut it down next morning doing the same as brfore only now if I have aot of real tracts it freezes up. midi works fine I have 2 shows this week so I will replace it it. I will take my songs off and save on external drive see if that helps it keep it as back up thanks guys you are alot of help

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I bring two ThinkPads to the gig. One for a backup. I'm a "the show must go on" kind of a guy.

I do one-nighters and I make my living by gigging. Since I started using ThinkPads in 2002, I've had to use the backup computer twice.

1) The hard drive of the main computer started making mechanical noises, so I switched the USB cable to the second computer and finished the night. I replaced the Hard Drive the next day. Nothing failed, but I know a noisy hard drive can be a warning signal.

2) The CMOS battery on a 6 year old ThinkPad computer died. The CMOS computer runs the clock and probably some other background tasks, and the computer will not start when it is dead. I used the backup computer for the gig and replaced the CMOS battery the next day. $4.95 at Radio Shack - it's one of those little disk batteries about the size of a US nickel coin.

Not a bad reliability rating for 10 years of very hard computer use and abuse.

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I take two copies of everything and a stand for anyone who wants to sit in.

I use the box for practice, and play otherwise.

I like it when someone else wants the melody. Comping and improv is fun.

My korg keyboard, a Roland W50, and a Yamaha on a 3 level rack is fun when I do that.

But then you can't see me very well.

Which is a plus.


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I wish I could endorse ThinkPads - but my Z61m died an early death with only very expensive MOBO replacement (if one can actually determine the correct MOBO) as the solution.

I spent over 1000$ on that box in 2007/8 time frame and got less than 4 years out of it.

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BTW - The T series thinkpads seem to be much more durable. I don't know which model(s) Bob has, but we had a few T series boxes at my former employer and those things took ALOT of abuse and kept on ticking.

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I've used the budget R series of ThinkPads since 2002. Since then I've retired only two of them. And they both still work but after 8 years of abuse they started getting a little tender.

I have two in my office, two on stage and Leilani has one.


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There are too many options. But to narrow it down:

An i7 processor, at least 4 GB memory with a possibility to expand should suffice for now (= the naext 2 to 3 years).

Believe me, software developers will find a way to render your equipment outdated.

On a desktop you may change the processor, have chances to chagen the sound card and grphics adaptor. Laptops usually show less possibilites to be updated.

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I'm just bringing my old HP510 back into service with XP Pro SP3. Does the job for gigs and it ain't worth jack anymore. Way OTT on HD space too (250GB)

Come to think of it, the only reason I stopped using it was due to Norton Ghost screwing up the HD. I had a sponsor back then and it was quicker, easier and cheaper to get a new state-of-the-art laptop. I'm only running two now because it looks like I have a regular gig on a Friday night and I don't want to use the new(er) one for that.

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