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My wish is that the style descriptions would be clearer. I know it is difficult to make a description that will ring the same in every ear, but I have never been able to find the style I have in my head with less than 2 hours of sampling style after style after style. And the ones that have "example song would be"... I have never heard one style that the example song sounds ANYTHING like the style. I don't have examples of that right now and I am not about to head up there at midnight to check, but I have yet to find one style that actually sounds like the example song.

It's just really time consuming to go through 85-100 styles to find what I want and I wish there was a way to describe them better. That would be difficult considering we all have different terms for similar concepts.

Like if I said "hi hat 1/8th notes right on the square", which is what I tell my drummers (and they know what I mean because we worked together a lot - not pushed, not pulled, not syncopated - right SQUARE on the 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +). Because that's the term I always knew to mean that, I don't know how else to say it or see it defined. I use terms like square, swing, bouncy and such. I suppose some of my problem is my not listening to enough different kinds of music for so long. Like when you guys talk about "pushes"... Well, they are not pushes, they are pulls. You are pulling notes forward with a ^, not pushing it back. Why not call it "anticipation" and be accurate?

Just as a test, when you see the word "train" used in a style, tell me what example song your brain flashes to.

My brain hears "CHUG-a-chuga CHUG-a-chuga CHUG-a-chuga CHUG-a-chuga" like the rhythm guitar in Folsom Prison Blues, also with kind a 16th note "almost tambourine shaking" feel on the high hat ride.

And there's the rub. How could anybody know what my brain hears and what my words mean by that description?

Also remember, though, that the voices in my head speak to me in foreign languages I don't understand.....

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And there's the rub. How could anybody know what my brain hears and what my words mean by that description?





style descriptions are user-editable. With a little bit of work on your part you can have your wish.

And the new descriptions would be exactly what works for you, not what somebody else thought would be appropriate

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Well, allowing me to edit names may be a nice feature, but does it ease the time required to sit and listen to 74,926 styles to hear them and rename them? THAT is my problem. Those descriptions don't mean much when you read them unless you know what was in the thoughts of the person who wrote the description.

I recall listening to one some time ago that the "example song" was "Take It Easy" by The Eagles. That style had NOTHING to do with that song. Not even close. So I wonder, who came up with that, and have they ever heard that song......

My issue is that given the descriptions of those styles, I have spent up to 2 hours finding the right style. It seems like there is a better way. The last time I ended up just programming the drum machine. It ended up being faster than sifting through the styles. Finding a drum and bass part that work is really difficult.

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As long as we are complaining about Style Descriptions, why do we still have the old dos 8 character truncated name conventions. Makes it hard to locate, re-locate a style in the list when some start with C and =c and ~c and so on. My point is, in RB "Fill A Track" with drums, there is a style called CRYIN. I tried to find that particular drum pattern in the BiaB style list, I am sure it came from some where within that list but I never found it. I need the BiaB style to use in RB to build a drum tack to get the Turn-a-rounds at the programed locations I place chord list.

I look for Drum patterns and most of the time just load the drums into RB and nothing else. I find that many styles use the same drum pattern and change the addition added harmony tracks. Would be nice to be able to list or FILTER out just the different drum tracks patterns, would reduce my searching time.

So I find there are about 50 drum only patterns used in RB "Fill A Track" I figured this would solve my problem. But now I find it hard to located the drum pattern in the BiaB styles list. In some cases the RB names are linkable to BiaB style names in other cases NOT.

Thanks for letting me vent a bit.
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