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Hi All,
I may be missing this completely but I would like to be able to transpose single instruments. The need is there for me when using some Kontakt instruments. Sometimes a Bass might require transposing up a whole octave or a String ensemble benefits by being an octave lower, etc, etc. I'd like to do this in BB rather than go to my DAW's and back into BB.
Is there a way to do this? Not the entire song .... just single tracks/instruments.
Muchly appreciated .... Mal.
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Under the Opt, Preferences menu, there is a button called Channels. One of the parameters is Octave. Don't think this affects RealTracks, but you mentioned Kontakt, which implies MIDI.
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Thank you jford ...... I guessed there would be an option somewhere. That did the trick.
Searching the 'help' didn't provide any answers.
Guess I need to do more than I am in BB from now on.
Mal :-)
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Oooops .... Spoke too soon, tried it and nothing happens. Just stays the same.
Surely, there must be an option to transpose a single track/instrument up or down an octave.
Mal
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>> Surely, there must be an option to transpose a single track/instrument up or down an octave.
You could do it by copying the track to the melody or soloist track, and then transposing it. (Edit- Copy Track)
Then mute or disable the original track. (right click on the track name at the top to see a menu for that)
Have Fun!
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I'll try it that way.
Thanks Peter.
Mal :-)
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Not sure why it isn't working. It's supposed to. Make sure you have the latest patch version of BIAB.
A couple of things to keep in mind; many Kontakt instruments limit the range they play in. So for example, if you lower the bass an octave, you may find yourself below the acceptable note range for that particular bass.
Also, remember, this is an octave setting, not a semi-tone setting. So a -1 means drop the octave by one. Don't use -12 or +12 to change the octave.
I tried it with my BIAB and it worked correctly. I selected Kontakt as the VSTi and then selected a bass instrument, assigned it to channel 2 (since BIAB bass is on channel 2). I dropped the octave by one and it missed a lot of notes, because it was below the acceptable range. I set it to zero, and it played properly, but close to the bottom of the range. I set it to +1 and it played an octave up. I watched on the little piano on the Kontakt screen to see that this was happening, as well as listening to the results.
Don't know why it didn't work for you.
BTW, I'm using BIAB 2012.5.
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I've used this trick of shifting the octave in the Channel dialog not to hear a difference, but to see a difference in the bsss part when I take it into another program.
The reverse also works. Being a treble clef-oriented horn player, sometimes I write my bass lines up an octave or even up two, then tell BIAB to play them in a different register.
It's wonderful having the flexibility to do these tricks.
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I seem to recall getting stuck on this and discovering that I could only get an octave-up transposition to work if I did it in two stages, 6 semitones at a time.
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Foxy, you must be in another dialog. Options, Preferences, Channels only allows increments of 1 or 2 in either direction, where the values of 1 and 2 represent octaves as explained by John.
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