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Just don't see the harm in having a section to post "I have a 'this' for sale. If you are interested, send me a private message."
Click. Save. Done. No business transacted in public.
What I am suggesting would see no business transacted in the forum, no asking PG to become eBay... just "I have this"....
Whatever. At some point "Because that's the way it has always been" doesn't cut it anymore. Particularly when one user is permitted to include his sales pitch and click through link in his signature file. Forum rule #7 states "Advertising is forbidden in any relation to your account except by explicit permission. This includes, but is not limited to, advertising websites and commercial-related or competing products." If this is a non-commerce site, well......
Maybe someone selling gear could just change their sig to add "Contact me to buy my used 'thing'..."
PS. Everybody defines "spam" differently. I define it as "Shoving your company's advertising down my throat non-stop."
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Just don't see the harm in having a section to post "I have a 'this' for sale. If you are interested, send me a private message."
Click. Save. Done. No business transacted in public.
Reasonable suggestion! I'm in total agreement. PG is great, so are the different sections of the forum. Let's not spoil a good thing going.
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Hi Eddie. I don't have any particular objection to your idea. I just thought someone should comment on the issue raised in your last post, even though I doubt I was the one to whom you refer.
First, the forum rule you referred to was not always there in its present form. Second, some of us actually did receive permission. I changed my signature anyway, but I had received permission to have a link to my CD because all the songs were composed in BIAB. Thus I recommend we not be too quick to judge others, because we don't know who else may have obtained permission from PG Music.
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Just don't see the harm in having a section to post "I have a 'this' for sale. If you are interested, send me a private message."
That's already being done right here on the OT forum. Mitch posted several items. I bought the Focusrite Saphire 6 USB from him. I think some other forum members made purchases also.
If you have something you want to sell, post it.
BTW, Notes was given permission many moons ago by PG to link to his products. There's probably been more than a few copies of BIAB sold indirectly by Notes also. Get over it. Notes is a nice guy, (although sometimes a little long winded.) 
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100% accurate Matt. Unless we are the recipient of that permission we don't know who has it and who doesn't. I would not have known about your (outstanding) CD had you not advertised it.
My concern is not to prevent anybody from making a buck. It is more to allow EVERYBODY to make a buck. Reselling a controller or a sound module once is not the same situation as people continually offering sales of their work. (I consider that to be spam, by the way.) I am looking at it from the same perspective as the young guy building his home studio and needing to be prudent with his spending. Or the guy who needs to sell a something to give his kids a better Christmas. Are YOU comfortable going the craigslist route and buying from strangers?
Allow me to describe a scenario from my city one month ago. (Substitute "synth" for "car" if you like.) Some people answered a craigslist ad to buy a car for $1000. They were given the address to come and see the car. The seller led them to the garage where the car was parked. When they got into the garage, the seller shot them both and took their $1000. There was never a car, and the shooter had no connection to the abandoned property he led the victims to. However it went down, they are no less dead. That is extreme example, of course, but it happened. Homicides 21 and 22 in my city I believe. (Yes, my city sucks.)
Wouldn't you rather buy a used horn from someone you at least know from the forums?
I really don't understand all the stern opposition to this.
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Wow, that's some Craigslist story.  And the reference Eddie made to the used horn? I bought a used horn from Eddie, after a discussion on the forum. Played it yesterday.
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Craigslist purchases can be done safely - if someone says 'Come to my house' I say 'No Thanks!'. I make busy McDonald's parking lots a general choice for either buying or selling. Or places that have good outdoor surveillance cameras in full view (any Wal-Mart parking lot).
My Craigslist experiences have been positive with proper vetting of advertisements and so forth. I shop 'local' that way.
Received and given many a deal via Craigslist. Last Craigslist purchase I made was for a used DirecTV receiver which has a built in digital HDTV OTA tuner. Ended up
talking with the Fort Carson soldier that was selling it for probably 1/2 hour, thanked him for his continued service, and gave him $40 for the tuner which he is using toward a big rear projection TV (why, I don't know) purchase. I use the tuner with a 30" HD ready Samsung tube TV that came out one year before the required integrated digital tuner. Spanking good picture on that TV.
I digress. My stuff for sale goes up on Craigslist.
Would PG adding this feature to their forum increase the outlet for such transactions, perhaps. But probably not a significant amount.
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I really don't understand all the stern opposition to this.
I bet it's not so much opposition as it is natural forum contrariness!  If you state that day follows night you're gonna get someone who claims it does not! Then there are the folks who feel compelled to inform you that "day following night" has already been discussed in this forum! So, if you get even a couple of supportive responses to your idea...its a good day! 
Your idea is a fine one Eddie. Wouldn't hurt anything and would possibly help with gear changing hands.
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... Whatever. At some point "Because that's the way it has always been" doesn't cut it anymore. Particularly when one user is permitted to ... -- Eddie
The only one being negative here seems to be you (ha, ha). You asked our opinion, we gave it -- and the poll seems to be a landslide against the classified section. It makes no difference to me, but why ask our opinion if you don't want to hear it?
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How about just having a separate post dedicated to forum member recommended music oriented classifieds sites?
That would direct users to places forum members are selling their gear without getting PG involved per se.
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Craigslist purchases can be done safely - if someone says 'Come to my house' I say 'No Thanks!'
If the item is of a nature that it has to be viewed, played, etc.... I will bring it to my back porch and they can come to my house. The buyer knows up front, in a very polite way, that for my safety I will be armed when he gets there and if he has any idea about trying to rob me it would behoove him to forget that idea right now. If he balks because of that, the sale is off. The few times I have had people over to buy, they had no issue with my being armed. If they don't understand "I don't know you, and you don't know me. Thus for my protection, I will be wearing a sidearm when you arrive. I have a CCW permit and I got it for a reason. I didn't spend 18 months in a war to be killed by a punk in Ohio."
But I also digress.
I bought my Behringer control surface from a user here that I do not know, but having seen his participation, there was a comfort factor there. That is what my goal is here, a portal to post unwanted, unloved, unused gear and possibly match up to a buyer, not to turn PG Forums into an e-commerce site.
What I don't get is how the naysayers have taken the idea of "I am selling my Roland MT32 module. Send me a private message if you are interested." and turned that into "PG Music isn't eBay."
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I call it all much ado about nothing.
The members here are for the most part, regular, honest, and upright people. A piece of hardware passes amongst friends, so what?
I don't like the Escorts or the other ***** spammers one bit. There ought to be more in the way of people granted permission to squelch those posts with a keystroke. And only those, which would go into a bank of posts reviewed by pgmusic, not where x calls y a jackyouknowwhat.
And I'm not in favour of selling products here that pgmusic sells, where you undercut the hand that feeds you.
I note, I say I note, that one person changes their signature and after being absent for quite a while, posts and posts and posts so that ad appears. But is otherwise quiet. To me that's abusing a privilege and that turns my crank. But I typically bite my lip. With my gum.
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