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I am a relatively new user of BIAB. I have entered chords and melody and style for a song and it sounds great thru BIAB with drums, bass, guitar, and melody.

I would like to generate a MIDI file for playback using a MIDI player on another computer. I choose File, Make a Standard MIDI file on Disk. I get a MID type file that will play in a MIDI player, but it has only the Melody track; at least no other tracks can be heard.

What am I doing wrong?

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Are you using a all MIDI instrument style?

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Hi Bob. It sounds like the other tracks are Real Tracks. Ask yourself, what makes them "Real"? The answer is they are audio recordings of real players.

Bob's Mantra: "Audio is not midi, midi is not audio, ommmm".

That's why the question, did you use an all midi style.

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I don't understand that "are you using an all midi style".

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OK, I think I'm OK with the style (*=GEORGEG). Not Real, as far as can tell. Still get only melody.

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Lets start at the very beginning. Where did you get the song itself? Was it downloaded, did you create it yourself, where did it come from?

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Also please tell us about your system. What kind of sound card? Is DXi checked in your MIDI Drivers settings?


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Are any of the instrument names green? Only MIDI track names will be yellow. I think GEORGE is all Real Tracks.

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Hi Bob B,

Realtracks and midi (and frozen tracks for that matter) have confused the best of us at some point in time so don't worry if you're finding all this a bit confusing!

When I selected the style =GEORGEG, the following image shows how the tracks loaded.



The two yellow tracks (Bass, Piano) hold midi data and the three green tracks (Drums, Guitar, Strings) hold Realtracks, audio files. This colour coding is what PG Music uses to distinguish between midi-based (yellow) and audio-based Realtracks/Realdrums (green).

When a song is saved to midi, only the midi tracks in the style will be written to the midi file. Thus, with =GEORGEG style, only Piano and Bass will be heard in the saved midi file. If a melody is entered on the Melody and/or the Soloist track, these will also save as midi. Overall, then, if =GEORGEG is used to create a midi file, Bass and Piano and potentially Melody and/or Soloist can be used to create that midi file.

To create the best sounding midi files, it's necessary to use styles that are 100% midi-based and not a mixture of midi and Realtracks.

Midi-based styles have nothing preceding the name. If there's a style that has =, _ or M_ preceding the name, these are not 100% midi. (When a style is loaded into BIAB, if all tracks are yellow then you know that you have selected a 100% midi-based style.)

For comparison, scroll down the style list until you find GEORGE+ and load that in and try it out. This is 100% midi-based and will save as a midi file.

All the best,
Noel

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