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Bar 1 of song I want Style A.
Bar 17 I want Style B.

I use Bar settings and input this and BIAB doesn't listen.
It changes the styles!
For example it will play Style B at Bar 1 !!!!

Arghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post the file and someone will set it up for you. Otherwise , since it is a secret we could tell you but then we would have to ....

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I've never posted a file before.
I hope this works...
Ooops. It says image files are only allowed.

How do you post a BIAB file?

This file is doing some really funky things now.
I have a repeat section that plays correctly the first time and on the repeat instruments start dropping out badly!



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If the part marker is set to Part B at the first bar, then it will probably play Style B from bar 1

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This file is doing some really funky things now.
I have a repeat section that plays correctly the fist time and on the repeat instruments start dropping out badly!

Time for a selection of Opt. > Return to factory settings?


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
If the part marker is set to Part B at the first bar, then it will probably play Style B from bar 1


Thanks VT!
You guessed correctly.

I have a part marker on bar one set to Part B and a part marker on bar 17 set to Part B. Is there a crime in that? smile

Bar one is supposed to play Style A and bar 17 is supposed to play Style B.

So what *IS* the BIAB secret to getting BIAB to play Style A at bar 1 (using part marker B)?

Does having my song settings at:
17, 64, 3 have anything to do with this?
That is choruses supposed to start at bar 17 with intro at bar 1?



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The style you select from the Style button determines what plays at the start of the song. The part marker for bar one may be blue or green.

By the way, there are styles (chosen from the Style button or F5), and there are sub styles. The part markers select sub styles, although the line is now blurred in version 2014. If you have 2014, right-click on a part marker to bring up a menu allowing you to define more sub styles such as C & D, then E & F etc.


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If the part marker is set to Part B at the first bar, then it will probably play Style B from bar 1


Thanks VT!
You guessed correctly.

I have a part marker on bar one set to Part B and a part marker on bar 17 set to Part B. Is there a crime in that? smile

Bar one is supposed to play Style A and bar 17 is supposed to play Style B.

So what *IS* the BIAB secret to getting BIAB to play Style A at bar 1 (using part marker B)?

Does having my song settings at:
17, 64, 3 have anything to do with this?
That is choruses supposed to start at bar 17 with intro at bar 1?


Not sure why you want to select Style B on the 1st bar and expect it to play Style A.
The easiest way to get it to start in Style A is to click the part marker until it turns blue (Style A)
Tip: Make sure the song is not frozen, otherwise the change won't take effect. You'll have to regenerate for it to work. HTH.

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Not sure why you want to select Style B on the 1st bar and expect it to play Style A.
The easiest way to get it to start in Style A is to click the part marker until it turns blue (Style A)
Tip: Make sure the song is not frozen, otherwise the change won't take effect. You'll have to regenerate for it to work. HTH.


I don't believe I ever said I want Style B on the 1st bar.

I knew this would get confusing. I should have called them Style 1 and Style 2. Let's use those names OK?

I'd like Style 1 at bar one BUT playing 'Substyle b'.
I'd like Style 2 at bar seventeen BUT playing 'Substyle b'.

It's important that the correct substyles are played.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
The style you select from the Style button determines what plays at the start of the song. The part marker for bar one may be blue or green.



I see. Just out of curiosity can this ever be over-ridden by clicking on the first bar, 'bar settings' and choosing a different style? Which I think is what I did. I remember getting a pop-up error, I think it said something to the effect of what you said.

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By the way, there are styles (chosen from the Style button or F5), and there are sub styles. The part markers select sub styles, although the line is now blurred in version 2014. If you have 2014, right-click on a part marker to bring up a menu allowing you to define more sub styles such as C & D, then E & F etc.


I have 2011.
I understand the difference between styles and substyles.
If I understand correctly, for every style there are what, two substyles? Do they have more now?

That's why it's important that not only the correct style plays at each bar but the correct substyle as well.


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I'm afraid I can't remember any longer what version 2011 had, but somewhere around then, multistyles were introduced. Some styles had more than A and B sub styles. Different colors like pink and purple were used. If a style has more than two sub styles, you will see this when clicking on the bar number, because you will see more than blue, green or neither. Version 2014 makes this much easier to define than before.


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I think 4 sub-styles (Multi-Styles) has been around since about 2008 so it's in your version and hopefully you should still be able to use that to do what you require.


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
I think 4 sub-styles (Multi-Styles) has been around since about 2008 so it's in your version and hopefully you should still be able to use that to do what you require.


Thanks VT.
I checked and yes, my version has 4 substyles, a,b,c,d.

BUT.....

BIAB is not behaving properly!

When I input sub b for my substyle, (which I know has a walking bass) BIAB just plays sub a (no walking bass) !!!

Arghhhh!!!!!


Also BIAB is now counter-intuitive.

For years and years and years, we had substyle a and substyle b.

They were the SAME STYLE, just that sub b was a variation of sub a, usually a walking bass in a jazz style (if working properly, see above).

Now when I click on sub c or sub d I am taken to the Styles Menu!!!

That was a HUGE surprise.
Talk about making the user confused about what a Style is and what a Sub-style is!

So now BIAB is saying that sub a and sub b are sub-styles,
but sub c and sub d are STYLES! HUH????


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I appreciate your frustration. Are PG Music support able to help? Maybe that's the next step?


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Thanks.
Tomorrow will be a busy day, but perhaps I will call PG support on Thursday.


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