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Hey guys...
I keep looking for some kind of southern-rock feel with a 2-beat bass line, (i.e., Lynard Skynard, "Call Me The Breeze"), but almost every rock thing I find has that monotonous pedal-bass feel where it just plays the same root-note over and over again. I've got the "Ultra" set this time, so if there is one, I should have it, but I've waded through maybe 100 or so styles, and can't seem to find the 2-beat rock-feel I'm looking for. Suggestions? Is this a "wish-list" item?
Thanks for the help!
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Lady:
There's an easy way if you use the "Style" button in BIAB.
Just click on it to open the so-called "style picker" window,
then click on the "Search" button near the bottom.
Type in 2-beat (with the dash) and hit OK.
The first one I get is C2_GRET. Click on the Preview button to audition it.
I'm not that familiar with southern-rock so that may or may not be what you're looking for.
If not, just click on the G button, next to the Search button to continue looking.
Good Luck!
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Have you tried a blue grass bass???
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Yep... Tried that... I even found a couple of styles that are named "LYNRD"-something. But they don't anywhere close to a 2-beat southern-rock. (Having played in a few of those kind of bands, I don't ever remember the bass-player playing a pedal-8th note line for the really "kicking" stuff..)  I like the rhythm-guitar sound on the style called =HBIL_SZ, but I was looking for that kind of sound on 2-beat/southern-rock track. Thanks... I guess I'll request it on the "Wish-list"...
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Hey Lady
Or you could make yourself a hybrid style? I've not done it for a few years but I think you can take a guitar sound from one style and add drums from another style and so on and so on. OR if you can find a good midi file of the Lynyrd tune in question you can use that to make yourself a new style.
As i said I've not done it for a while, but i don't remember it being hard and the support and info makes it pretty easy to understand the process.
If you're not sure, post a question and I'm sure some of the more experienced guys (and gals) will pitch in and point you in the right direction. One of the most helpful forums I've ever come across.
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There are none of the Real Styles that use a simple Root - Fifth bass line?! That kind of stinks!
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I keep looking for some kind of southern-rock feel with a 2-beat bass line, (i.e., Lynard Skynard, "Call Me The Breeze")
I hate to be a PITA but just a fyi for those that don't know, "Call Me The Breeze" is actually by the fantastic JJ Cale. Skynard do a very nice cover though.
Here is a clip of Cale and Clapton performing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8uk7vlk0sE
I do, btw, feel your frustration on trying to find an appropriate Style. With so many it is getting even harder than ever.
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There are, but they aren't the "southern rock" feel that I'm looking for...
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I know it was a cover, and I already have the Clapton DVD, and the J.J. Cale version is already loaded on my iPhone. Not sure that has anything to do with my request for the Skynard type style, but thanks...
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Suggestions?
There's a midi version here (fourth link down.) It could be used to create a new style which should have that bass pattern. The bass could then be hybridized into existing styles.
Understood this is not what was asked. Only mention it in case there's inclination to mess with the Style Wizard.
-Ron
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Is this something you could accomplish by using slash bass chords and rests? A lot of input on your part but might be something that would come close.
Good luck with it.
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If it's only the bass that's the problem, load the style you want, then replace the bass with the real tracks double bass bossa "a only"; that's essentially a two-beat root/fifth pattern. Hope this helps. Mike Laatz www.capetownjazz.com
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Wow... That works great... It got me a lot closer to what I'm looking for. It's still not 100%, but now that I've got that figured out, hopefully I'll find one that gets me closer. Thanks for the tip!! (I just wish one could click on the "Demo" button for a style without having to wait a couple of minutes for each one to compile!) Thanks, Mike! And, thanks rkl122 for the midi file. I downloaded it, but still haven't figured out how to take it and make it into a style that I can reuse. It would be ideal if I could take the drums & bass from that midi file, and then lay in some of the slightly-fuzzy guitar from "=HBIL_SZ". I'm still working with it! I appreciate all the suggestions...
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And, thanks rkl122 for the midi file. I downloaded it, but still haven't figured out how to take it and make it into a style that I can reuse. It would be ideal if I could take the drums & bass from that midi file, and then lay in some of the slightly-fuzzy guitar from "=HBIL_SZ". I'm still working with it!
You're welcome. You should be able to shape it. Let me know if you get stuck and maybe I'll try a hand at following my own advice. 
After you have the patterns from the midi in a new style, let me offer a tip I think I learned a while back: Instead of "make a hybrid style", consider the stylemaker itself to mix those parts with others. For example, open the new (bass/drums) style in the stylemaker - call that the target - then hit ALTF3 and play with that window, using +HBIL_SZ as the source style. My reasoning is this has more flexibility than "make hybrid style" in that you can put any instrument from the source file in any instrument position of the target file. Uh, oh, Check that! Yikes, I just tried it and now (build 282) they have a restriction that bass must go to bass and drums must go to drums. (Why'd you change that PG?  ) Anyway, there's still flexibility to interchange the other 3 instruments. You could pop a second guitar into the strings that way. (I once harbored a crazy notion to construct libraries of bass patterns and piano patterns, etc. up to 10 in a style (5 a's & 5 b's), so I could audition them all from a single style, then pick one for zipping into a new hybrid. I'm OCD that way. That's where the attraction to the hybridization flexibility comes from. ...Like there's not enough to do with what BB already has right? Doh.)
None of that matters for your case, cause you'll have the drums & especially the bass lines in the target file to begin with. (They were the only two voices I heard prominently in the first half of that midi.) You'd pop that guitar into the target's guitar, and maybe find one or two other pattern sets from the +HBIL_SZ or other styles to pop in the piano and/or strings slots. Another tip: for a given instrument, by bringing the a substyle from one source and the b from another, you can get quite a variation. (Probably would sound like dork, but hey, love that flexibility ...  )
Good luck. Hope it works out. -Ron
EDIT - I just realized that guitar you want is a RT. The way I said would bring the guitar MIDI patterns over. To add the RT guitar, you'd hit Misc in the stylemaker, then More, and set the RT in those combo boxes in the middle. (If you wanted to audition the guitar midi patterns, you'd set the guitar to no soloist.) And btw, to avoid letting the style change patches, you can turn them off in the style, or simply disable "style patch changes" in the Midi Options window.
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Have you pressed F-5 and selected different bass styles? You can make that bass do all kinds of things from that window.
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FYI: I found a style that more closely matches what I was trying to do. It's called "*=CRAY1". I dropped the Bossa-bass into it, and cranked it up to about 188bpm, and it's a pretty good approximation of what I needed. I still want to learn how to create a style from a MIDI file, and will pursue that. But this gets me in the ballpark... Thanks, guys, for all the help! B>
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Yes, I've been discovering the joys of the F5 key for awhile now. I've used it to tweak some of the jazz & bossa styles. (It's the best way I've found to substitute the Fender-Rhodes piano in some of the styles with grand-piano!) I really appreciate all the great suggestions here! Thanks for being kind to a forum-newbie!
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