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BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin #246151 04/01/14 06:44 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda	I thought I would move it from here: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=246092#Post246092 as this deserves some more attention. Somewhere back several years ago BIAB load time increased dramatically. No one seemed to notice. Many of us are running SD drives and it was manageable. However, with a recent update the load time had apparently been reduced. The claim was 20% but my experience saw a much more dramatic reduction, from all most a minute to 5 - 10 secs. I was thrilled and mentioned this in the forum. But alas for no apparent reason the load time has again increased. Actually it is inconsistent. Two days ago on my Surface it was 5 secs (wow), today 40 secs. There must be a fix to this. BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246155 04/01/14 07:41 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,944 PeterGannon PG Music Staff
PeterGannon PG Music Staff Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,944	To find out exactly what your boot times are, we added a reporting function in BiaB 2014 Build 381. Do the menu action [main menu] [help] [display log of yellow/green messages] You will see lines like this: - Bootup time in milliseconds =11,336 [4/1/2014 8:38:34 AM] That means it took 11 seconds to bootup. So please search through that log, and post several entries. Note that this is the time from when BiaB first gets control of the program to when its finished booting and drawn everything. So if there was a problem before that (such as a virus checker blocking things, then the bootup time would be listed as shorter than it really was, since the time we display is when we first get control of the program. Once we get some data from people, we can work on finding out what is causing a boot delay from some people. Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246157 04/01/14 07:52 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda	Cool, here is from my Surface: From 6 sec to 57 secs, you can see why I am concerned! - Bootup time in millseconds =7,428 [4/1/2014 10:51:34 AM] ** New Session started at : 4/1/2014 10:51:34 AM - Bootup time in millseconds =57,168 [4/1/2014 9:31:24 AM] New Session started at : 4/1/2014 9:31:24 AM - Bootup time in millseconds =7,279 [3/31/2014 2:10:36 PM] New Session started at : 3/31/2014 2:10:36 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =6,275 [3/31/2014 1:26:05 PM] New Session started at : 3/31/2014 1:26:05 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =31,336 [3/31/2014 1:22:59 PM] ** New Session started at : 3/31/2014 1:22:59 PM BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246158 04/01/14 08:01 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,616 R Rachael Expert
Rachael Expert R Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,616	I tweaked my MSE antivurus to ignore the BIAB program (BBW.EXE) and that dramatically improved my time. Maybe look at something like that.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246162 04/01/14 08:41 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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seeker Veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,047 80 Mi North of Sacramento CA	This happens to be one evening. Note initial boot time at bottom for that day. - Bootup time in millseconds =8,338 [3/20/2014 9:31:17 PM] ** New Session started at : 3/20/2014 9:31:17 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =8,195 [3/20/2014 8:46:33 PM] New Session started at : 3/20/2014 8:46:33 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =8,151 [3/20/2014 8:05:38 PM] New Session started at : 3/20/2014 8:05:38 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =8,163 [3/20/2014 6:51:48 PM] New Session started at : 3/20/2014 6:51:48 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =22,834 [3/20/2014 6:40:00 PM] ** New Session started at : 3/20/2014 6:40:00 PM Thanks folks! FrankB Down The Street vs2015 12-03-2014 Win7, AMD QuadA8-5500,16GB,2TeraHD, Komplete 10 PG Ultra Plus 2016,Alesis 12USB, Sonar Platinum

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin PeterGannon #246163 04/01/14 09:04 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,608 Sterling, Va raymb1 Veteran
raymb1 Veteran Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,608 Sterling, Va	Start-up time is the most when I open BIAB for the first time of the day. When I close and re-open it's a lot faster. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) boot time.png (152.41 KB, 113 downloads) Last edited by raymb1; 04/02/14 08:26 AM. Asus Q500A i7 Win 10 64 bit 8GB ram 750 HD 15.5" touch screen, BIAB 2017, Casio PX 5s, Xw P1, Center Point Stereo SS V3 and EWI 4000s.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246178 04/01/14 11:48 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 413 Netherlands rodipoet Journeyman
rodipoet Journeyman Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 413 Netherlands	- Bootup time in millseconds =23,901 [1-4-2014 21:48:35] ** New Session started at : 1-4-2014 21:48:35 - Running Windows Notepad.exe to display file C:\bb\Data\FlashMessageLog.txt [1-4-2014 18:53:25] - Bootup time in millseconds =22,493 [1-4-2014 18:53:16] New Session started at : 1-4-2014 18:53:16 - Running Windows Notepad.exe to display file C:\bb\Data\FlashMessageLog.txt [1-4-2014 18:49:42] - Bootup time in millseconds =22,839 [1-4-2014 17:35:36] New Session started at : 1-4-2014 17:35:36 - Bootup time in millseconds =42,026 [1-4-2014 12:52:47] New Session started at : 1-4-2014 12:52:47 - Bootup time in millseconds =21,903 [31-3-2014 17:43:49] New Session started at : 31-3-2014 17:43:49 - Bootup time in millseconds =22,063 [31-3-2014 15:58:52] New Session started at : 31-3-2014 15:58:52 - Bootup time in millseconds =37,630 [31-3-2014 11:44:15] New Session started at : 31-3-2014 11:44:15 - Bootup time in millseconds =28,348 [30-3-2014 22:02:48] ** New Session started at : 30-3-2014 22:02:48 Last edited by rodipoet; 04/01/14 11:49 AM. Rob de Klerk, Dutch singer-songwriter https://www.robdeklerk.nl Biab 2023, Cakewalk, N.I. Komplete 14, Win 10,64, Ozone 9 elements suite, Presonus studio 24c

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246179 04/01/14 12:32 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda	My mean and standard deviation looks to be the worst!! Why me?? I hope this can be fixed I hate long load times and my entire working career I have tried to reduce variance (SD^2). BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin AudioTrack #246253 04/02/14 05:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 457 Catonsville, Maryland, USA Bob_B Journeyman
Bob_B Journeyman Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 457 Catonsville, Maryland, USA	FWIW: I've noticed the incredible number of IO reads too. No other program I use (e.g., Adobe Premiere, Lightroom, or Photoshop, or Cakewalk Sonar X1) takes nearly as long to launch as BIAB. As others have noted, relaunching BIAB results in a much faster time. Seems BIAB loads a huge number of files it doesn't really need to minimally operate before displaying the chord window. I think old Windows operating system did something similar years ago. MS got around that by changing the series of events, such that the OP displayed the splash and login screens sooner, while the OP continued to load files. Maybe BIAB could do something similar? Seems like a simple programming solution, but I'm no programmer. Bob Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/BobBelas

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246255 04/02/14 06:14 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,446 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,446 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	It's hard to discern any pattern from these numbers, but I hope the reporting of same helps PG Music. I can see why several of you are frustrated. We haven't heard from rharv yet; it might be his fault. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin Rachael #246257 04/02/14 06:26 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,616 R Rachael Expert
Rachael Expert R Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,616	Originally Posted By: Rachael I tweaked my MSE antivurus to ignore the BIAB program (BBW.EXE) and that dramatically improved my time. Maybe look at something like that. Those with horrible load times, try disabling your antivirus.

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246276 04/02/14 10:11 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 413 Netherlands rodipoet Journeyman
rodipoet Journeyman Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 413 Netherlands	switching on my keyboard and my (usb) soundcard before starting band in a box seems to reduce my loading time with 50 % Rob de Klerk, Dutch singer-songwriter https://www.robdeklerk.nl Biab 2023, Cakewalk, N.I. Komplete 14, Win 10,64, Ozone 9 elements suite, Presonus studio 24c

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246278 04/02/14 10:18 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,610 Buford, GA MikeK Veteran
MikeK Veteran Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,610 Buford, GA	Not bad, actually: - Bootup time in millseconds =6,771 [4/2/2014 2:17:26 PM] ** New Session started at : 4/2/2014 2:17:26 PM - Bootup time in millseconds =5,154 [3/29/2014 1:05:37 AM] New Session started at : 3/29/2014 1:05:37 AM - Bootup time in millseconds =5,144 [3/29/2014 1:04:16 AM] New Session started at : 3/29/2014 12:32:11 AM - Bootup time in millseconds =5,156 [3/29/2014 12:28:10 AM] New Session started at : 3/29/2014 12:28:10 AM - Bootup time in millseconds =5,181 [3/28/2014 11:42:40 PM] ** New Session started at : 3/28/2014 11:42:40 PM WIN 8.1 64 Bit RAM 8GB Last edited by MikeK; 04/02/14 10:19 AM. Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin DrDan #246285 04/02/14 10:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,354 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,354 Australia	The load-up time is also impacted by what soft synths are present on the various tracks. For example, if Sampletank is present on a track when BIAB loads, the time increases noticeably. MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2026 audios on Soundcloud

Re: BIAB Startup Time needs a fixin Rachael #246309 04/02/14 02:13 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda DrDan OP Veteran
OP DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,789 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: Rachael Originally Posted By: Rachael I tweaked my MSE antivurus to ignore the BIAB program (BBW.EXE) and that dramatically improved my time. Maybe look at something like that. Those with horrible load times, try disabling your antivirus. Peter specifically said this reported time is related only to BIAB and starts only when it has grabbed all the files. So it should not be dependent on any AV scanning. But it is a good idea anyway and I did just this long ago.

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