Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#267549 11/06/14 10:02 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
A-Z Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
errrm so I've writing a song with a few odd chords
I've tried entering these via
1.direct typing
2."Enter current chord" function
3. by attempting to select manually by the chord composer but, NONE of these options work.

1.often I just want the 1 and 3 played without the 5 or any other notes - can I do this in BIAB?


2. other unusual chords I cant seem to type in or select manually OR input via "INSERT CURRENT CHORD" option are ('as described by Logic Pro' when i write them there)
-'F# no3 5/7' (C# E F#)
-'Db no3 7' (B C#)
-'B no3 7' (A B)

so, how do I do this in BIAB Mac? or can anyone confirm if I actually can? And if not, seriously BIAB, sort it out?

Much Gratitude x

smile
Atlantis
https://soundcloud.com/atlantisz


Ä-nē-cha Dē
Feels Like Alice
www.soundcloud.com/feelslikealice
A-Z #267552 11/06/14 10:42 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Hi a-z,

From memory, BIAB supports around 130 chord types for every key. The ones you list, though, are not part of that extensive repertoire. The names that Logic Pro has derived seem to be an attempt to provide some kind of nomenclature because the chords given are not standard names that are found on sheet music.

From a BIAB perspective, F#5 could be used for the first chord as a substitute. For the other two, since BIAB chords are 3+ notes, it's necessary to know a little more about the context of your music to be able to recommend a substitute.

To define a chord, it really needs to have a minimum of three notes. For example, the A-B that you give could belong to B7, B9, B11, B13, A9, Asus2, Am9, D6, Dm6, G9 just to name a few of many possibilities.

Regards,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
A-Z Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
thanks Noel
yes its unusual and not a chord by definition just to have the two notes but chosen specifically to get the sound just the two make without the other notes. Only done in very rare places which respond to the lyrics going sour then returning to bright happy sounds.
It's great to have this clarification that its not possible in BIAB. I'll just have to write the full chord with 3 notes then write over it in Logic Pro with my own two notes louder to get the effect... I think that will work. I'm not doing it in all my songs but the current one I'm working on requires it in a few targeted places.
thanks for the info much much appreciated
Cheers
Atlantis
https://soundcloud.com/atlantisz


Ä-nē-cha Dē
Feels Like Alice
www.soundcloud.com/feelslikealice
A-Z #272243 12/03/14 08:17 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
A-Z Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
Noel I'm on another now that Logic Pro defines as Eno35/6... which is B C# E, how would you enter that in to Band in a Box?
smile


Ä-nē-cha Dē
Feels Like Alice
www.soundcloud.com/feelslikealice
A-Z #272260 12/03/14 10:14 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
S
Expert
Offline
Expert
S
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
try

-'F# no3 5/7' (C# E F#) F#5
-'Db no3 7' (B C#) Db5
-'B no3 7' (A B) B5

Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
S
Expert
Offline
Expert
S
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
Try
E no3 5/6 E5

Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
A-Z Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 73
thanks I just tried E5 but its missing the c# and definitely the wrong sound.
in the meantime I'm using an A as it sounds closer but I'd definitely love to crack this because I probably won't stop writing occasional odd chords in odd places.
havent' tried the others you mentioned in my other song but will give them a go.


Ä-nē-cha Dē
Feels Like Alice
www.soundcloud.com/feelslikealice
A-Z #272474 12/04/14 06:07 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
S
Expert
Offline
Expert
S
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,827
E6 should give C#

A-Z #272519 12/05/14 02:55 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 20
R
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
R
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 20
A-Z:

When you import your midi tracks to your DAW, could you just edit the track and delete the unwanted notes?

If your importing .wav files, maybe you want to consider, for the offending track, to make it a midi and assign it an instrument from one of your DAW soft-synths after your edit.

Just and idea ..


Ron95

As a teacher, Experience often begins the first lesson with the final exam.
BIAB user since 1990 - Yes, I really am that old!!
A-Z #275299 12/18/14 08:33 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,786
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,786
I was going to suggest something similar, i.e. go with a midi track (Realtracks are never going to crack these!), enter the closest 3-note chord, generate the track, then freeze it and in the note editor erase the notes you didn't want.
It's a cumbersome workaround for sure, but probably the only way you got.


Just because you can, doesn't mean you should!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
A-Z #282920 02/01/15 07:16 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7
Newbie
Offline
Newbie
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 7
I have an odd chord I'd want to enter into BIAB.

It's Bm7sus4. The guitar notes of this chord are E-D-B-F#-A.

I'd like the chord to pause for two beats.

It is the second chord in a measure. The first chord of the measure is Am.

Would the measure look something like this?:

Am Bm7sus4... or
Am ^Bm7sus4

How do I type it?

A-Z #282937 02/01/15 09:45 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,839
Hi FM,

A sus4 chord is neither major nor minor because the 3rd (that tone that defines major or minor mode) is replaced with the 4th.

From the notes you give, what you are after looks to be a minor 7th (B D F# A) with the 11th (E) added. Try Bm11 and see if that works for you.

A B7sus4 (or B7sus in BIAB terminology) is B E F# A (there is no D).

Hope this helps,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2025
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!

We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!

Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.

Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles

Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)

And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.

You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
  • Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
  • Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
  • Playable RealTracks Set 4
  • RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
  • SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
  • 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
  • Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
  • Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
  • RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,397
Posts778,659
Members39,648
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Parsinux, Mike McVay, misha pelt, Slick Locrian, daveg68
39,648 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 133
DC Ron 111
WaoBand 104
rsdean 83
dcuny 82
Today's Birthdays
sanityblues
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5