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I thought I would share my experience to aid other people who are considering downloading the EverythingPAK.

I'm pleased to say that the download completed this morning and it is now installed over the top of BIAB Pro 2015 as per PG advice. Actually, I still have the 49BonusPak and JBridge to install but that shouldn't take too long compared with the mammoth BIAB/Realtracks install.

I used Firefox with DownEmAll plugin as recommended by PG on my desktop PC. This worked flawlessly apart from the two tutorial packs (songslessonpak and videotutorialpak) which refused to download any more than about 1Kb each. I downloaded these from my laptop without issue. Go figure.

The main bandinabox_realband_2015_full installation ran without issue.

I had a couple of oddities after master_realtracks_installer_2015 had completed. The following didn't install..

realdrums21-29.exe
realtracks_shots_holds_246-294.exe

I reran the realdrums21-29 installation manually and it worked fine but realtracks_shots_holds_246-294 kept giving peculiar errors. So I re-downloaded it and although the file size was exactly the same as the first downloaded copy it ran perfectly. So PG's advice was spot on there.

After running the main BIAB program and letting stylepicker build its database I then went into Check for Updates. The program is on version 411 which is the latest (I'll get around to beta 412 later) and it then detected and applied the April 2014 updates to the Realtracks.

I had a very quick play to make sure I could create a song and was so impressed with the results I saved it (using _ACBLZ2 slow blues style)!

Now a couple of Observations/Questions:

1. Bearing in mind that this is a clean install over the top of BIAB Pro 2015 which was installed cleanly a couple of weeks ago with the default realtracks. On the Check for Updates screen it shows that I have 1352 Realtracks installed - shouldn't this be over 1800? At least that's what it says here --> http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.every.htm

2. I think the installation instructions could be clearer on a couple of points.
a). I had to ask support whether to uninstall BIAB Pro 2015 first before installing EverythingPak or just install over the top. It would be easy enough to cover this on this page --> http://www.pgmusic.com/tutorial_downloading-realtracks.htm .
b). After installation I noticed a file called style_demos_audio.exe which wasn't mentioned in the RealTracks install log and it's not clear whether this was installed or needed to be run separately. If this needs to be run separately then it should be covered in the installation instructions.

EDIT: After installation of the 49BonusPAK it says I now have 1405 Realtracks. An extra 4 seem to have crept in somewhere but still some way off >1800.

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Glad you finally got BIAB downloaded and installed here is information to sooth fears

1. first the easy one - install the " style_demos_audio.exe" - if it has it's own install/.exe in your download area - it is usually NOT included in the "FULL_BIAB_Realband_whatever.exe" l

2. Ditto tutorials, loops, shots/holds, Hi_Q instruments, etc.

3. (longer read, my apologies) now on to the really important one from your perspective - Real Tracks:

If you bought the BIAB Pro pak a few weeks ago (2015? or 2014? doesn't really matter) it came with the Pro RealCombos RT set. That is a mish-mash of many different kinds of RT's - jazz, pop, rock, country - but not all RT's from any ONE category or set so unsure how many or which RT's were included - only you and PG can figure that out.

To your real question (do I have them all?) You could start by looking at the "What add-ons do I have" under the Help tab to get idea of which full RT sets you need to download and install - but not sure what it will show either in the "Add-ons found" area or the "These add-ons not found" area - because you have PARTIAL RT sets from the Pro Pak install, again just a place to start.

But unless you downloaded ALL RT's sets from your download area (1-6; 7-10; 11-12; 13-15, up to the last one 221-227) and installed them all - you probably will be missing a few.

I have every RT (non-audiophile) including every bonus RT (as you've discovered Bonus add-ons sometimes add a few, that are not part of the regular RT sets) from previous years that may not be in this year's sets.

My "Check for updates" shows 1413 RT's.

Maybe it should show "Over 1800" but these web listed or "ad to buy" numbers are actually not very "telling." I won’t say they are inaccurate or misleading since, I am not exactly sure what they are suppose to be saying - precisely.

But when I go into my RT folder and if I do a properties of all RT folders in MY x:\bb\Realtracks\... NOT including the three following folders:

"data," "library," or "loops" folders (hence, counting only folders that contain RT's themselves) I get:

1,843 folders (and subfolders) with a total of 60,418 files

However, I doubt any two people have the same file count (and maybe not even exactly the same folder count) these could be off by a few or many (depending on if .wav files are present/not deleted after BIAB use, etc). The above also includes the Direct Input RT's, (suppose to be same as corresponding "wet" RT's but are dry - allows user to add Amp modeling to taste).


If I don’t include the x:\bb\RealTracks\Direct Input folder I get:

1,396 folders (and sub folders) with a total of 48,048 files

If I simply do properties on entire x:\bb\RealTracks folder I get


2,154 (and sub folders) folders and 76,048 file s(but now we include holds, loops, style demos audio, etc.)

above is just info to gauge what you may need to install - also since you do nto have all previous years Bonus sets you will probably never have same totals - you will always be off by a few.



EDITED:

I JUST RAN the BIAB 412 update and NOW my "My "Check for updates" shows 1414 RT's. It went up by one! too funny.



Good luck and have fun!!!
Larry



Last edited by Larry Kehl; 12/16/14 07:20 AM.

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Comprehensive! Thanks Larry, that has eased my fears somewhat. Some useful information there too.

I didn't know about the "What updates do I have" option. The only things it shows that I don't have are Soloist sets 12, 13, 14 and 15. It says I have all the style disks, and under RealDrums and Realtracks nothing is listed as missing.

This is what it shows as being present..

Addons found: Styles Disks : 0 (Built-in) ,1 ,2 ,3 ,4 ,5 ,6 (Jazz) ,7 (Country) ,8 ,9 (Latin/Salsa) ,10 (Pop) ,11 (Classical) ,12 ,13 (Euro/Techno) ,14 Jazz Fusion ,15 (Nashville Country) ,16 (Blues) ,17 (Unplugged) ,18 ,19 ,20 ,21 ,22 ,23 ,24 ,25 ,26 ,27 ,28 ,29 ,30 ,31 ,32 ,33 ,34 ,35 ,36 ,37 ,38 ,39 ,40 ,41 ,42 ,43 ,44 ,45 ,46 ,47 ,48 ,49 ,50 ,51 ,52 ,53 ,54 ,55 ,56 ,57 ,58 ,59 ,60 ,61 ,62 ,63 ,64 ,65 ,66 ,67 ,68 ,69 ,70 ,71 ,72 ,73 ,74 ,75 ,76 ,77

Soloist sets: Soloist Disk Sets : 1 (Basic) , 2 (Killer Jazz), 3 (Specialty Jazz), 4 (Rock), 5 Bluegrass, 6 Killer Pop,Older Jazz, 7 Blues,Pop, 8 Killer Jazz Waltz, Pop Waltz, 9 Blues Guit, 10 Ballads and Guitar, 11 Trumpet, 16 Sax, 17 Trombone, 18 SoundTrack, 19 Modern Jazz Even 8, 20 Campfire/Children's

RealDrums sets in C:\bb\Drums\ : 1- Rock and Jazz, 2- Waltzes, Country, and More, 3- Fusion, Hip-Hop, and More, 4- Pop, Rock, and More, 5- Latin, 6- Nashville Classic, 7- Nashville Swing, 8- Lite Pop, 9- Ethnic and Country, 10- Bossa and Jazz, 11- About Time, 12- Salsa Clasica, 13- Salsa Moderna, 14- Techno 1: Progressive, 15- Techno 2: Party, 16- Urban Pop, 17- Terry Clarke Modern Jazz, 18- Terry Clarke Classic Jazz & Bossa, 19- Terry Clarke Trading Fours, 20- LA Pop Jazz, 21- Rock, Blues, Metal and more!, 22- Modern Rock, 23- Classic Jazz, 24- Jazz Waltz, 25- Nashville Brushes 1, 26- Nashville Brushes 2, 27- More Rock, 28- Smooth Jazz, 29- Country Pop

RealTracks sets in C:\bb\RealTracks\ : <snip> all up to 227

Should keep me busy for a while! smile

EDIT: I will see what I get after the 412 update wink EDIT: Mine has also gone up by one, lol.

Thanks again,
Rec

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If you look here (soloist sets)

http://www.pgmusic.com/addons.soloists.php?os=win

you will see that sets 12-15 are skipped

but these ARE the ones that come with the Mega, Ultraplus, and Everything pak


Now look here the "missing" sets (Artist Soloist sets) can be bought individually

http://www.pgmusic.com/addons.artistsoloists.php?os=win



They were a one-time offer back in 2007 BIAB (they have not been included as free or add-ons since)


The 2007 17 pak add-on contained (Andy Lavene's 12 and 13)

"…
4. Artist Soloist Series - Andy Laverne Mainstream Jazz (Soloist Set 12)
5. Artist Soloist Series - Andy Laverne Pentatonic Jazz (Soloist Set 13)
…"

And 2007 25 pak add on contained (Jeff Lorber's 14 and 15)

"…

-Jeff Lorber Soloists.exe: Jeff Lorber Fusion and Screaming Rock Guitar/Synth Soloists for Band-in-a-Box.
…"

or the Lorber Soloists sets 14 and 15 respectively

Larry

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Thanks again for your help Larry, much appreciated.

EDIT: I have now installed the songs and lessons pack which has added Soloist sets 12 and 13.
So only the following Soloist sets are not included: Soloist Disk Sets : 14 Jeff Lorber Fusion and 15 Jeff Lorber Guitar

Just looking at the video tutorial pack now. Wow! This EverythingPAK is amazing value!

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As an update I also had a response from PG Tech Support...

Originally Posted By: Kent

If you go to the RealTracks Picker, you'll see a much higher number listed. This is because a lot of RealTracks are variations of other RealTracks, but different tempos, etc.. The Update window doesn't count the variations, while they were counted in the 1800+ number and in the RealTracks Picker.

If the RealTracks Picker says you have less than 1800 please let us know of course. You can find it by clicking on the RealTracks button, which is the one with the saxophone on it.


Thank you,



My Realtracks Picker lists 2008 of them.


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Great

RT count same as mine then so you should have them all!

and I guess I stand corrected on which Soloist sets can be had with BIAB 2015 (if you get Everything Pak)

Now have fun!
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