Hi, I'm quite new to BIAB so I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. I just purchased the 49-PAK bonus mostly for some of the Strings related realtracks.
I'm trying out this one: _CTWLZPP.STY Celtic Waltz Basic 3piece[100RS] This 3 piece celtic waltz style is made up of All RealTracks. These include an Acoustic Piano, Strings and Fingerpicked Acoustic Guitar. (Ac.Piano, Ac.Guitar, Strings)
I get the following messages when I select this style and generate/play it in BIAB 2015: - C:\bb\RAcG119.ST2 not found.This means that you do not have the RealTrack that is required for this style or solo. [2014-12-30 4:18:29 PM] - C:\bb\RPno0223.ST2 not found.This means that you do not have the RealTrack that is required for this style or solo. [2014-12-30 4:18:29 PM]
I can't hear the piano or guitar when it plays, only the strings. I searched my hard drive for these files but they don't exist.
Do you think that this is some type of install error on my part, or perhaps a PGMusic packaging error related to the 49-pak (maybe some files are missing)?
Thanks, Dave
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Which BIAB package did you buy besides the $49 bonus pak?
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I'm not with PG but looking at that particular style, and loading the Demo song for that style, which I assume is what you also did, requires
RT Set 173 for the Acoustic guitar
RT Set 213 for the Piano
it doesn't look like those are in your set of RealCombos that come with the Pro Pak or the additional RT 140 set you bought.
Good Luck Larry
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 12/30/1403:00 PM.
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Thanks Larry, After some further investigation, it appears that this style is contained in RealTracks Set 213 : Pop and Country, Piano and Strings Don't know why I have a reference to it on my system since I didn't purchase it. Dave
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Because THAT particular STYLE (not all the associated RT's) come with your $49 Bonus pak
Look in Style Picker - go down to "Bonus [NewAge Pno & Strings] [5}" and you will see that style:
_CTWLZPP
Larry
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I did a reinstall last night just to rule out any installation errors, but I get the same issue.
Yes I can see the _CTWLZPP style when i look at Bonus [NewAge Pno & Strings] in the stylepicker.
So I guess my reformulated questions are: Is it customary for PGMusic to sell you a style and then not provide all of the components of that style? Or is this typical of some type of packaging error on PGMusic's part for the 49Pak?
Before I made my purchase decision on the 49Pak, I listened to the Celtic Waltz sample here: http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.bonuspaks_2015.htm It featured piano/guitar so I sort of expected to get it.
Dave
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Again I don't work for PG but I have never known them to purposely mislead or otherwise be devious in selling products.
You bought the smallest package with the fewest RealTracks then added on a bonus pack that had extra styles that in hind sight required a larger set of Rts then the minimum.
If you think that this was misleading somehow or you don't want to buy the extra RealTracks, or don't want to or can't substitute other similar RealTracks that you do have for the ones called for in the style you can always return your items.
PG has a very generous 30-day money-back guarantee. Call them and see what you can do they are always fair.
Good luck snd Happy New Year Larry
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So I guess my reformulated questions are: ... sell you a style and then not provide all of the components of that style? Dave
The $49 Bonus Pak, does not contain RT styles. It claims to only have specific new Real Tracks. There is a difference between RT Sytles and RT's:
RT's - are specific instrumental recording RT Styles - are collections of individual RTs which play well together.
In the case of RTs, there really are no "Styles", What they have called these are "RT-Combos" or "bands". And Pro pak ain't got many.
So you got what you paid for. Think seriously about upgrading the Pro-Pak since it is very limited.
Good Luck.
Last edited by jazzmandan; 12/31/1405:57 AM.
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The 49 pak has 49 separate realtracks which for the most part add on to existing styles that you already have. For example, there are not many drums in the 49 pak, so when you use a guitar from the 49 pak, it would be calling upon drums from the regular BiaB package that you already have.
When we make the song demos, we try to use styles that are present on the Pro pak, because everyone has that. For the 49 pak, we must have made a few demos that called on some realtracks from the new 101 RealTracks. We will fix that by adding some more demos in future patches.
You can see ahead of time if any realtracks are missing from a song demo by making a song list (press the song button and make a song list) and one of the columns indicated if all realtracks and real drums are present or not for the song.
Thanks for the clarifications folks, I'm beginning to understand how things are packaged. So just to broaden the inquiry a little bit: My primary interest is Celtic music. If I buy the following, will I have crafted for myself an "Everything Celtic" package of RealTracks/Styles at a lower cost than one of the other more robust general paks?
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If I'm reading the package deals available for Windows correctly, it seems that you should be able to upgrade/cross-grade to the UltraPlusPak for $159. This package has everything except for what's in the $49 Bonus Pak. It's a great deal.
The above is a sale price, though, and Dec 31 is the last day of the sale. If you are quick, you may make it at this special price and not have to spend $323.
First, I agree with Jazzmandan that OP might consider a version of BIAB with more RT's
However, to reiterate that STYLE "_CTWLZPP.STY" is not part of standard full Plus, UltraPlus, or Everything Pak BIAB install (long story but I have both the UltraPlus and Everything paks and HDD's this year - yes dual redundant).
Since I have a virgin Everything PAK HDD here, with NO bonus paks installed, I verified that, that style is nowhere to be found on that HDD. And while it is listed in the Bonus section of the Style Picker on that virgin HDD it will not load since it cannot be found.
That particular style only shows up on my LOCAL HDD after I install part 1 of the two part downloadable $49 bonus 49-pak on top of a FRESH install on a different HD.
To verify this I did a fresh install of the downloaded "bandinabox_realband_2015_full.exe." onto a completely different HD then my current install. Then looked for that style - not there; then I installed the free 20 pak, again that style was not there; I installed PART 1 of the$49 49-pak - and finally that style shows up.
So yes, styles do come with the bonus pak (at least this year)
Now I have to go clean up all my install mess -
That style has date modified date of 10/20/2014
Is this horse dead yet? Larry
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 12/31/1407:16 AM.
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Noel, Thanks for that recommendation. If I read it correctly, it will work out like this: $129 BIAB 2015 $159 UltraPlusPak Crossgrade $ 49 49Pak Bonus $337 TOTAL But, I'd have all of the Celtic stuff, plus a ton of other RealTracks Dave
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I checked via the Live Chat. I can crossgrade for $159 and get everything that the UltraPlusPak offers. I think I gotta do it.
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Have a GREAT New Year making music, that actually goes out to all BIAB'ers (and PG staffers)!
Larry
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My original purchase of BIAB 2015 Pro for $109CAD has ballooned up to about $438CAD after extras, taxes and currency exchange. I think my upcoming birthday present has just been bought!
Now, just gotta cut up my credit card for 2015!
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