|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12
Newbie
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12 |
Playing falls (1x down slide) is a staple of big band music. Is it technically feasible to play something like my 90 bpm sample (4 quick slides instead, kinda like turntable scratching) ? WAV Sample (please click) Thank you for all replies in advance
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035 |
Are you asking if a real brass player can play this? If so, the answer is, sorta.
There are three sounds in your file. None are of a fall.
The first is a straight sfortzando attack and decay, no problem.
The second is apparently a clip reversed, so no, I can't make that sound on a horn. I think if you were really set on it, I would ask the next player to knock my horn, and that would probably sound about right, and pretty awful. In fact, it would be so awful that it wouldn't matter what the rest of the guys in the brass section played.
The third sound is a pretty normal attack, again, no problem.
If you are thanking me in advance for a reply, you're welcome. If you are thanking me for a reply in advance, I'm already too late...
But somehow I don't think this is about a "brass section playing a trill", is it? What am I missing?
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12
Newbie
|
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12 |
Hello Matt,
The "second sound" is not a reversed clip. It's a note pitch-bent up-down-up-down roughly 2 octaves. Really fast slides, basically.
Hence my mentioning of big band falls, which seem to be slides too, just slower and one way. So the gist of my question is, instead of a classic fall, could a section play slides yoyoing up and down fast (as the second sound in the sample) sounding sharp, unison.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035 |
Very interesting. So this seriously is about brass playing. Well, that sound in the middle is not something I would like doing. I guarantee if a section did it together, it would s**k big time. I would certainly leave the studio asking, "Why"?
I'm not trying to be flip. I just cannot envision any pro section I ever played in making that sound.
To quote John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious!".
But I'll stay with this if you like. Now, Ed Buckley on this forum has great classical chops as well as jazz. I've played with orchestras but I'm much more of a jazz and show guy. I'd like to get his take, not because an orchestra would make that sound, but because he should have the control to do it better than I would. Maybe.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035 |
ps on any wind instrument, falling off in pitch is far easier than rising. Doing either fast is a problem. Doing it fast down and up in a section is my idea of a nightmare.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,316
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20,316 |
It was with interest that I listened to the samples (many times), and formed the conclusion that the middle clip was probably reversed. Then I move on to read the other posts. Such phonics are indeed rare, and rather less useful?
BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12
Newbie
|
|
OP
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12 |
OK, I'll can this idea.
I had doubts about it from the outset, that's why I inquired. Its main appeal was that if it turns out that a brass section can copy (and rework?) the rhytms of turntable scratch artists, this could add lots of new interesting rhytmic zings to the palette. OK, back to the good old falls and doiks, then :-)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035 |
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 225
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 225 |
I always wondered if a brass midi'd could play through a wah wah pedal like the guitar pedal solo on Chicago 25 or 6 to 4. What would that sound like?
RIP Terry Kath
The world lost a great guitarist with his passing.
There are some really interesting Brass mixes people should post the ones they know about.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,035 |
It sounds quite interesting. I found it distracting to use but a wah wah pedal works fine with brass.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.
Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,304
Posts777,533
Members39,613
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean