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Hi folks I've been playing around with music software for a while now and although I had heard about BIAB, never really explored it until recently. I must say I find its potential very exciting and have decided to give it a go. I'm currently running a Mac with Logic Pro, and my question is whether or not anyone has heard any rumours about release dates for BIAB 2015 for Mac? Guess it would be worth my while to wait if it's in the near future. The other question is whether or not anyone knows what sort of period of grace PG gives on purchases. Thanks in advance Cheers Phil
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It should be out soon, it is worth waiting for. Unconditional 30 Day Money Back Guarantee - We stand behind our products! 30 Day Money Back Guarantee When you purchase ANY product directly from PG Music Inc., you are automatically covered by our 30 Day Money Back Guarantee. If for any reason you are not completely satisfied with the purchase you made directly from PG Music Inc., simply contact us within 30 days of your order, and we will refund the purchase price (shipping charges not included) - no questions asked! No small print required! 
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They have been known to allow a 30-day grace period, but since you don't know when (or if) the release will be, that doesn't really help much.
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I'm a huge Brent Mason fan to begin with, but I have to say... after listening to the new RealTracks demos, just Wow ! The new baritone guitar tracks by him sound incredible !
Hopefully Mac BIAB 2015 wil be out soon, otherwise, does anybody know if I were to buy those new RealTracks would they work in BIAB 2014 for Mac without an update ?
I'm thinking probably not, but wasn't sure if just converting the new RealTracks to .m4a would be enough to somehow use them.
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I'll be waiting to purchase the 2015 version for Mac but you better move quick because my cash flow is in significant decline, lol. If anyone gets a heads up on when the 2015 release will be available I would love to know. I'll be waiting in the meantime.
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I believe the 2014 release came in May. I would assume a May/June release.
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I'm a huge Brent Mason . . The new baritone guitar tracks by him sound incredible !.. I'm thinking probably not, but wasn't sure if just converting the new RealTracks to .m4a would be enough to somehow use them. - Jay You can unpack the RealTracks installers convert the wma to m4a and use it on Mac. BUT: RealTracks Set 227 : Brent Mason - Baritone Guitar and More!
Note: This RealTracks Set requires Band-in-a-Box 2015 for Windows or higher.There is a Baritone here: www.realband.org/guitars.html Nov 19, 2014 FCL Baritone Guitar Rythm Country Travelin Ev115 G-I-IV-V Sample.mp3 Some of the other Brent Baritone are in the Extra Pak offer at the time of purchase, that I did not realize as I was buying the Audiophile version and it always includes everything BUT not this time. They are the N/A ones below: 
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@solidrockwhat does mean ?
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There is NO fine print to read in the contract, the big print says it all.
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...does anybody know if I were to buy those new RealTracks would they work in BIAB 2014 for Mac without an update? The short answer is "No" The slightly longer answer: The individual RT's are only sold in the format of .exe installers, for one thing. And even if you do somehow crack that nut to get to the actual files inside, then you'll have to know exactly what files go where, it's not just a bunch of sound files. Some things even get written into other files during the installation (hence the "this file requires this version")... the issues are just endless! And since most of all these new Rt's seem to "require" the latest WinSux version, it's a pretty safe bet it'll be that way for the Mac as well. The good news is, it's always been worth the wait! 
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
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I believe the 2014 release came in May. I would assume a May/June release. According to forum announcements, it was released June 9, 2014. Past practice is no guarantee, however.
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Good news: They've started beta testing - So it shouldn't be too long now 
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)
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Good news: They've started beta testing - So it shouldn't be too long now That's the first I've heard of it. Really, I think they might want to at least set some boundaries around this. I don't expect a detailed release date where everybody's tapping their foot and looking at their watch. But OTOH, I think if somebody bought 2014 and then 2015 came out say, 32 days later and they had to do a full upgrade I think they'd be a little ticked. If they're getting that close, then just announcing that you can buy without worrying about a full price upgrade they'd generate some good will. I'd be OK with a charge to take into account the hard drive cost as long as it doesn't approach a full upgrade price. And for those of us who have Windows and Mac and don't want to ditch one, it might be nice to have a bundle discount option.
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But OTOH, I think if somebody bought 2014 and then 2015 came out say, 32 days later and they had to do a full upgrade I think they'd be a little ticked. PG Music would never take advantage of customers in this way. They're one of the best and most sincere companies that I've ever dealt with. Just my two cents worth. Regards, Noel
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<I personally believe that> PG Music would never take advantage of customers in this way. They're one of the best and most sincere companies that I've ever dealt with.
Just my two cents worth.
See insertion. I don't say you're wrong, but in any kind of a music forum you have to take the fanboy effect into account. One example, a guitar vendor who, according to most of the denizens on one board walks on water. Oh, he will absolutely work with you. He'd take care of you no matter what. First and only transaction I had with him he shipped what I considered a pretty unsatisfactory product. Even though his reputation was such that everyone insisted everything he shipped was extensively inspected and of indisputably higher quality than most. I was willing to see if I could address my issues via warranty, but my usual guitar tech was out of town for the Thanksgiving holiday. When I asked if I could extend the usual return period one day he not only refused, he did it in a pretty snarky, desultory fashion. So I sent it back, ate the shipping and made a mental note that it's not what they do for everyone else. It's what they do for *you*. Till they put it in writing I'm going to hold off buying a copy. Again, that's not a critique. It's just being careful. I own the Windows version. No issues at all. But then I haven't really had to rely on out of the ordinary good will or beyond all expectations customer service so it just means I like the product and wouldn't think twice about purchasing the Mac version as long as I knew I wasn't in the position of having to depend on a favor rather than a policy. If they don't want to do that, it's absolutely their right. But usually when people don't offer those kinds of assurances, it's for a reason. Like it could be another 2-3 months and they don't want to give out that much extra use unless they get paid for it. And that's OK, it's their business, their software. I'll just make due with the Windows version in a VM until they get something out there.
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Hi nemonster, I appreciate your views and I completely understand that "Once bitten, twice shy" is a safe and good motto to live by. That being said, though, I stand by my earlier comments. PG Music is an exceptional company. I note that you've made three posts since registering. I take that to mean that you don't frequent the forums a great deal. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that but if it is the case, you probably haven't seen the posts that I have. On the BIAB Windows and the Off Topic forums, I've seen many, many instances where Dr Gannon and his company have demonstrated exceptionally good customer support and well beyond what most would consider 'excellent'. If you ever get time to spend looking back through the various forums and topics, you'll come across a number of examples of the company's wholehearted commitment to their product and their customers. All the best, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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Hi nemonster,
I note that you've made three posts since registering. I take that to mean that you don't frequent the forums a great deal. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that but if it is the case, you probably haven't seen the posts that I have.
You don't have to log in to read. It seems to me that assuming that because someone doesn't feel compelled to comment profusely that they haven't been paying attention would be a premature judgement, and not necessarily warranted by any facts in evidence. If I were inclined to make similar generalizations, I might conclude that this somewhat flawed analysis had a direct relationship to the veracity of your assertions about PG Music. But since there is no obvious correlation between someone's jumping to conclusions and the business practices of a software vendor I do intend to hold off until I see more evidence one way or the other. Answering questions is not in the same league as doing something that saves the customer money and costs you. Those are two different animals. If you have a link where they obviously, and in public provided a similar upgrade courtesy or diversion from what would be considered normal policy feel free to point me there. I'm open minded on this. I don't have any evidence to consider them unethical, but OTOH I haven't seen or experienced anything that leads me to believe they walk on water either. They run a software business. Customer service always sits on the black side of the bottom line - it might butt up to the edge but it seldom crosses over for companies that last. And again, no issue with that. Just being cognizant of the realities. Ain't buyin' till I see it in writin'.
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nemonster, If you're interested, here's link that gives a little broader insight into the type of company that PG Music is. These were awards, not prizes in a competition. Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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Didn't see anyone from PG Music in there. And even if they commented, not sure why it would be relevant to the discussion at hand?
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Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
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Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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