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Hi,

I just installed BIAB yesterday so I'm having teething problems.

I would like to have a guitar solo play only 4 bars last time through my song.

1) I want it to play the melody of the song - not soloing around the chords.

How would I input the melody and have it solo on it? I don't mind it improvising on the melody - that might be quite nice.

2) How do I have the soloist only play for the 4 bars? Every time I try to do this the soloist is playing through the whole song! I don't see where I can set the exact bars to have the soloist play.

Also having a terrible time adding a simple hold chords at the end of the song but that's a different problem so I'll research that some more before posting for help.

Thanks,

Paul

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Have you looked at F5. This is where you tell what to play when.


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The melody part I am not sure of, someone with more BIAB experience than I can answer that.

For the guitar solo if you right click on the first bar and open Bar Settings (I believe not at my PC) you will see your instruments listed there. Theere are drop down windows for each one, pick your guitar track and sel;ect mute. This will mute the track till you tell it otherwise.

Then go 4th last bar (or whichever one you want to add the guitar back in) and do the same right click, Bar Settings. Chose your track again and selec, back to normal. This will put your guitar back in at that track until the end.

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Paul... I see you're new to BB or at least to the forums...... Welcome.


I tried to do what you are attempting very early and met with various levels of frustration trying to figure it out.

What I'm suggesting here is based on how I work. You might find it useful, and then again, you might not.

I use BB strictly as a composing tool. It's where I write the song and get the structure, tempo, key, etc ready. It's where I build the foundation for things that will follow in later steps and stages of the song project.

Once that's done, to my satisfaction, I render the tracks in Real Band and export them to my DAW (Sonar) where I do the production. This is where the solo gets put in, and the other production things..... where the fiddle fill and the piano fill gets brought to the spotlight....

Have a listen to the songs I have done this way on my link.....

It's not the only way to work and get things done, just the way I work to get things done.

To address a few other things.... there is NO WAY currently to get the Real Tracks (RT) to play a melody that you devised. You can get some amazing solo's that will jam around the chord progression but it will not follow your melody. You can do that by using MIDI and selecting a synth to play, lets say, a piano part that carries the melody.

To get the soloist to only play in certain bars, you should consider the things I mentioned above. In a DAW, you can use envelopes to bring instruments in and out automatically as you need, in order to get a 4 bar solo in a specific area.

Listen to the songs on my website.... that's exactly how I do the solo's and the fills.


hope this helps.

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RealTracks do not play "melodies." They only solo on the chords. You will need a MIDI guitar part if you want it to play the actual Melody. I suspect the best way to accomplish what you want is to expand the whole song form (as opposed to looping choruses) and enter (or cut and paste) the four bar melody fragment at the actual bar you want it to play.

You can generate a partial solo by using the "Custom" option from the Soloist menu.



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Thanks! It seems to be working now.

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