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This morning I loaded the Jazquint style without really meaning to - it loaded with a soloist I was trying.
Something a bit unusual caught my ear, and I listened more carefully, and then looked more closely at the 'b' patterns. I then checked where Jazquint came from - it was Style set 4, and I checked the other jazz styles in that set. And at least one of them - the Charleston style- has something similar, this time a clarinet line slipped in through the 'string' slot.
What I'm talking about is a sort of 'noodlin' line somewhere in the accompaniment, not melody or solo - not quite a melody, but definitely more melodically interesting than the plain rhythmic chordal comping that most styles have.
Are these rare exceptions - was someone just feeling very generous (or mellow?) the day they were made ?
As it happens, these two are not particularly to my musical preferences, but I'd be really interested if people can point up any other examples.
Ian G.
Late-developing enthusiast for jazz / blues. Principally pianist
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I then checked where Jazquint came from - it was Style set 4, and I checked the other jazz styles in that set. And at least one of them - the Charleston style- has something similar, this time a clarinet line slipped in through the 'string' slot.
What I'm talking about is a sort of 'noodlin' line somewhere in the accompaniment, not melody or solo - not quite a melody, but definitely more melodically interesting than the plain rhythmic chordal comping that most styles have.
Ian, in the stylemaker, hit the opt button for the part in question. Check that "voice leading" in the upper right. For some patterns - and this is rare in my experience - it'll say "riff based." The flyover will indicate what that does, and it might explain what you heard. (I don't have any patterns for the string slot in the Charlestn style, though, and I've only found one riff based pattern in the A subsection of the Jazzquint, so I'm not sure these factors are what you heard. Build 282 here.)
Search on "riff-based" for more info.
Check out DRJONSHF for a bunch of riff-based patterns in the piano voice.
HTH, Ron
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Hi, Rikki !
Will reply more fully when I've looked at the things you suggest, but on the 'Charleston' thing - sorry, my mistake ! It was actually the Dixiland style, which is part of that set 4 group - there's 72 patterns in the string section (some silent, obviously, to enhance the effect) of clarinet noodlin'.
Ian
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Hallo again Rikki and tout le monde
In the Jazzquint style, the line I'm referrring to is on the piano. It's nothing amazing - mostly arpeggio figures, some two-directional, some with the odd grace note or added harmony. It's true it's not that evident in the A section if you run the style, although in fact in you go into the style and look at the patterns, there are a number of relevant figures amongst the patterns. It's much more marked in the B section. As far as the voice-leading thing is concerned, the style is actually set to smooth, so it is spreading those options out over the chosen harmonies.
So back to the global question: can others point up other instances of styles which generate runs and lines, and not just vamping ?
Or maybe coming at in another way; is this a 'one man's work' kind of question - is there a particular PG staffer who might do this, and if so, is there a way to ID his work ?
BW to all
Ian G.
Late-developing enthusiast for jazz / blues. Principally pianist
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