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Just wanted to pass along a recent experience, not music related per say, but of interest to a tech savvy group like this.

I recently made the jump from a "regular" TV to one of those "smart" TV's. Mostly because I use Youtube and Pandora to find new music.

After getting it all set up up, I connected to the internet via wireless. Works great...just no Youtube, no Pandora. Yet I can load vids from CNN, CNBC, MSN, NBC...well you get it....any other site except Youtube and Pandora.

So to Samsung tech support for 3 days and over 6 hours...resets, more resets...the TV, my router, my modem...still nothing. Samsung tells me its a Google problem. So call the Youtube folks...more resets. They finally tell me its a Samsung problem.

So I'm on my own. Figured what the heck, I'll dump the wireless route and go hard-wired. Run Cat 6 wire from the modem to the router to the TV. No change.

So, I start running speedtests. TestMy. DSL Reports, Speedtest.net all show I have 45+Mbps coming in! More resets...nothing!

Finally, in desperation, I bypassed my router and went directly from my cable modem to the TV...success! So the problem seemed to be the router. I then hooked up a non-wireless router between the cable modem, the TV and my other 2 hard-wired computers...success. So now I know that my wires are good and there's something going on in my wireless router.


In the wireless router, I played with QoS, MMW, assigned static IP addresses, changed MAC addresses, DHCP addresses etc....nothing helped with the Youtube vids nor Pandora.


Finally, decided to try a new router from BestB (mine was only 4 years old!). Got a hot Netgear Nighthawk. And its like night and day. Youtube, Pandora and everything else loads super fast with no drop outs, 4K looks amazing, wired speeds are some 20% faster! Wireless almost doubled. 5G now fully operational with much more bandwidth.


Moral of the story....new toys are power hungry. Even if your "old" toys are only 4-5 years old, they may not play nice with new toys.

So what was the other thread about Win 10 saying......


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Similar story here.....

Several items on my in house network are direct to the cable modem. Wireless router is just one of the things that's also plugged in as a branch and used just for the wireless node it provides. There's also a hardware firewall that also acts like a switch, into which all the wired computers and some of the other devices are connected..... computers, alarm, additional remote switches, phone booster gizmo, etc....

When I switched from one provider to another, I had to run the TV aux devices direct as well. They ran fine on wireless with the other provider but not the new one.....and no amount of support would get it done.... like you found out...one support guy blamed the other one's device and vice versa..... so a cable direct to the modem, and it was working like a champ.


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Reminds me of something I've been wondering about. My smart TV and Blu-ray player each have YouTube in firmware. My iPhone 4 will no longer run the YT app, but I can call it up in my browser and run it there, linked to the TV via Wi-Fi.

So here's the thing. After watching YT on any of them for long, over an hour or so, the video will stop and a "Loading" message appears, but playback never resumes. Only option if I wish to continue is to switch to another device. It's a pain.

I have cable Internet that runs from 12-20 Mbps and a wireless Netgear router that is less than a year old. This doesn't happen in any of my hardwired devices. (Ethernet to my entertainment center isn't feasible.) I'm not even asking for illumination, just musing aloud. Such are the vagaries of being digital.


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The other thing that I have come to know about Youtube is that it constantly adjusts the video quality up and down based on the download Mbps. At times, I can go from UHD, to HD, to low rez and back again. Even when using an assigned 2 or 5 GHz channel. Thanks Comcast! Must avoid the 4PM-9PM timeslot. That's when all the oldies around here are on the internet. Once my neighbors go to bed at night, it flies!


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Must avoid the 4PM-9PM timeslot. That's when all the oldies around here are on the internet. Once my neighbors go to bed at night, it flies!


Yup... I was thinking you should see the speeds start to pick up around 8pm to 8:30pm and then go wide open after 9pm.

I used to have to look at the clock and if I wanted to call my mom in the evenings, it needed to be before 7:30pm at the latest..... she was "lights out" by 8pm...even in the summer. But she was up at 6am at the latest every day.


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The old toys are designed to be replaced every few years as well. The "system" was designed so that if you want the latest and greatest, you will have to pay for it. That is why they change the power cord ends etc, so that you HAVE to buy the lates in order for your toy to work.

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My iPhone 4 will no longer run the YT app, but I can call it up in my browser and run it there, linked to the TV via Wi-Fi.
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Yeah, iPhones and WiFi can be problematic. Sometimes they will just work with no problems at all, others you need to fiddle with the Access Point settings for ages to get the right combo - and even then it's unpredictable. I forget the particular setting that's the biggest problem.

Also, iOS 8 is very buggy WRT WiFi...


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Interesting. I have a Visio that I bought 3 years ago and I have never had an issue with it that wasn't the fault of the guy holding the remote control.

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