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Hello
I changed some instruments in a song/ style and I try to save this combo as a new style.
I go to File->Stylemaker->Save Style As, and am saving the style with a new name in the styles folder. I am putting an underscore before the name since it is a real tracks style (tried it without too).
The style does not show in the stylepicker, even after updating the stylepicker.
If I browse on my drive to the styles folder and double click on the style, it is applied to the song, but with different instruments/ real tracks then the ones I have "saved".
What am I missing?
BIAB 2015 for Mac by the way.
Hugo
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No answer to my question there I make a song and load a style (real track style) I change some instruments in the style (real track instrument). As A test I also put together someabsurd choices here and also crazy levels in the mixer. Did it with "normal" choices and that made no difference. I Choose "File", then "Stylemaker", then "Save Style as". I save it in the styles folder in BIAB with a unique name like _Mystyle or _BADSTY (tried many different names). I run stylepicker and click "re-build" the list. My style is nowhere to be found... I close stylepicker. Other solution: To be shure in Realtracks preferences I uncheck "Auto Realtrack Substitution" To be shure I uncheck in preferences "load style with songs". I choose "new song". I put in a chord. I apply from the stylepicker an existing style with real tracks. I browse manually to the styles folder in the BIAB application folder and double click the style I created. "Something" happens, but not (really not) what I saved. What am I missing? Why is my style nowhere to be found in the stylepicker? Why are my choices not saved. Not only the real tracks are wrong but also the volume, reverb and panning...Everything... Hugo
Last edited by Hugo Jacquet; 07/07/15 11:47 AM.
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In WinBB you have a Styles Menu
Save Current Song (except muted instruments) as a Style
Saves the style that is in use to the \bb folder with the parts that are currently selected. If, for example, a MIDI style
has had RealTracks added, the RealTracks will be saved with the style and the style name will get an = sign prefix.
So if you were to add an acoustic bass RealTracks to the ZZJAZZ style and save it with this feature, the name would
change to =ZZJAZZ.STY. It also saves MIDI SuperTracks and Hi-Q instruments (or other TGS files), and
automatically calculates dB offsets based on volume, taking existing offsets into account.
Press the [Rebuild] button in the StylePicker and the new style name will be added to the list of Other Styles.
In MacBB
Save Style As…
This lets you save a new style or edited style, or rename an existing style.
Can you try
Edit Existing User Style
Launches the StyleMaker with the current style selection loaded. This allows you to edit an existing style (*.Style) from disk. The resulting style can then be saved with the same name or a different name.
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In WinBB you have a Styles Menu
Save Current Song (except muted instruments) as a Style
Saves the style that is in use to the \bb folder with the parts that are currently selected. If, for example, a MIDI style
has had RealTracks added, the RealTracks will be saved with the style and the style name will get an = sign prefix.
So if you were to add an acoustic bass RealTracks to the ZZJAZZ style and save it with this feature, the name would
change to =ZZJAZZ.STY. It also saves MIDI SuperTracks and Hi-Q instruments (or other TGS files), and
automatically calculates dB offsets based on volume, taking existing offsets into account.
Press the [Rebuild] button in the StylePicker and the new style name will be added to the list of Other Styles.
In MacBB
Save Style As…
This lets you save a new style or edited style, or rename an existing style.
Can you try
Edit Existing User Style
Launches the StyleMaker with the current style selection loaded. This allows you to edit an existing style (*.Style) from disk. The resulting style can then be saved with the same name or a different name. I tried everything (I think). Save style Edit Existing User Style To no avail I save the style with some 140 bpm bass Terry clarke drums Some 140 bpm piano I set (a blank) song tempo to 110, 120 or whatever tempo. The saved style is NOT in the stylepicker, so I open and find the style on disk (in the BIAB/ styles folder). I double click: style changes....to Jazz Bebop Swing 190....WTF ****Sorry****couldn't help myself. Hugo
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Where are you looking for it in StylePicker? In the Windows version, it should appear in the "Other Styles Found" category.
Also, can find the actual .STY file on your computer? Are you saving it to the main BIAB folder? Or in the BIAB/Styles folder? Only styles in one of those two folders will show up in the StylePicker.
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Where are you looking for it in StylePicker? In the Windows version, it should appear in the "Other Styles Found" category.
Also, can find the actual .STY file on your computer? Are you saving it to the main BIAB folder? Or in the BIAB/Styles folder? Only styles in one of those two folders will show up in the StylePicker.
The styles are not in the stylepicker. In the mac version no "other styles found". I do update the stylepicker, but nothing to see... I do save in the BIAB/ styles folder. I find the style on my computer (Finder/BIAB/styles). When I double click on the style. "Something" is applied, but not at all what I saved. Hugo
Last edited by Hugo Jacquet; 07/08/15 10:11 AM.
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This is by the way a fresh install of Yosemite (new Macbook Pro, 2 or 3 weeks old), and a fresh install of BIAB 2015 for Mac everything pack, no upgrade over existing installation.
Hugo
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As a workaround, assuming the Mac version of StylePicker works similarly to Windows, you could create a "MyStyles.LS3" file in the BIAB file and see if that gets incorporated into the StylePicker. Band-in-a-Box will load in all of the .LS3 files that are in the \bb folder (in alphabetical order), and append them to the StylePicker list. Here is a link to more information about creating your own .LS3 files. Just a thought. Don't know if it works for the Mac or not, but hopefully it does.
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As a workaround, assuming the Mac version of StylePicker works similarly to Windows, you could create a "MyStyles.LS3" file in the BIAB file and see if that gets incorporated into the StylePicker. Band-in-a-Box will load in all of the .LS3 files that are in the \bb folder (in alphabetical order), and append them to the StylePicker list. Here is a link to more information about creating your own .LS3 files. Just a thought. Don't know if it works for the Mac or not, but hopefully it does. Doesn't work. Made an .LS3 file. Does not show up in stylepicker (after re-building list). Hugo
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If you haven't yet, then I think it's time to contact PGMusic directly.
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If you haven't yet, then I think it's time to contact PGMusic directly.
Hello, I did now. Their answer: saving a combination of realtracks with their mixer settings as a user style is not possible, it only works for midi styles... Hugo
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I saved combos and styles all the time with the old Midi tracks. I have never been able to do this with Real Tracks, though.
So I asked PG about this (before 2015 Mac version came out). They told me that it can't be done with Mac, and that we should add this function to the wish list.
They also said they'd pass the suggestion on to the tech people, and maybe it would be added for 2015.
I notice that this (very basic and necessary) function is still not available to us in the 2015 version. Hey guys... how about it?
I have to change instruments manually and save them for every song. What a slow way of working that is!
Its also misleading because the original style title still shows when the song loads, even though changes have been made.
Steve Dwiggins
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One workaround is to use Templates. Change your instruments, and their parameters and then save that as Combo Template 1 (or whatever will help you know what that combo is).
When you want to apply that combo to "your song"... copy and paste your chord sheet from "your song" onto the Template, and save that as "your song".
You still have to set form... tags, endings, intros, or any other special info.
But if your template has the form already set, you can minimize that.
(Standard 32 bar tunes for example, can fit right in to your template and be ready to go.)
I'm using that method, since PG hasn't given the Mac version the ability to save combos.
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Template? Please define what you mean by that term.
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I just saved a style on a Mac and didn't see it. So I rebuilt the styles. Just choose rebuild. make sure you pick all styles which will include third party styles such as yourself. Walla, there it is.
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Hi Hugo , is that a typo ?
Last edited by w; 12/30/18 12:34 PM.
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If it's not a typo, then there's the explanation for his problems. Too old version, plain & simple. Well spotted, Mr. Magoo 
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