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Just purchased and installed BIAB 2016. Never used this program before. If anyone can answer these questions I would appreciate it. I feel kind of lost without getting the answers to these questions.
1) Where is it mentioned that two programs get installed on my computer (BIAB 2016 and also RealBand) instead of just one?
2) I think RealBand uses real recorded instruments. Can't BIAB 2016 use these instruments? If so, why the need for RealBand?
3) I tried the demo songs located in the "Artist Performance Sets" but even though it looks as if I can move the artist notes around using the Piano Roll view, it looks like my changes don't make a difference and the song sounds the same.
4) More questions later if I can get these questions answered. Thanks!!!
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Answer to 2) - BIAB uses the same RTs. In fact, I believe they are loaded into BIAB on installation and RB reads them. Think of BIAB as your "workpad" and Arranger and RB as its DAW.
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Welcome to the forum and welcome as a new purchaser. We are fellow users here. You can always contact PG Music for assistance if you don't get the answers you need.
BIAB comes bundled with RealBand as a free accessory sequencer, but it's more than that. If you are familiar with the term, RealBand is a DAW. Both BIAB and RealBand use the same files. There are some who use only BIAB, some only RealBand, but perhaps the better workflow is to write the song in BIAB and then open it in RealBand for the recording of additional audio tracks and for 'finishing touches' on the song. Other DAW software, like Cubase, SONAR, ProTools etc. cannot open a BIAB song directly, but you can move the tracks into those for further work.
There is a lot more to the explanation but look up DAW and sequencer if you're not familiar, and ask your next questions.
#3. BIAB comes with many demo songs, and in different forms. The Artist Performance songs are special demos that are not intended to be edited, only show what is possible in great hands. 'Regular' BIAB songs may be edited, and that's a great way to learn the program. Once you start working in BIAB, we'll need to go over freezing tracks, and the difference between the melody or soloist tracks that do not get regenerated, and the others that do.
Settle in; the learning curve is substantial but we can help as you need it. And there is always great support available from the company. The many videos available may be a great way to get started, or do what I did over twenty years ago: just dive in and have fun.
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1. I dunno, good question!
2. Yes, Biab uses the same recorded instruments, just differently
Realband allows features BiaB doesn't; rendering multiple takes of the same RT, recording multiple audio tracks, etc
BiaB makes things faster for the initial effort; like finding chords and styles, but RB offers more expansion.
They are similar but very different.
3 & 4 didn't really have questions, so they are hard to answer.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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#1. This appears near the bottom of the main pgmusic.com Band-in-a-Box for Windows page: http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.htmBuy / Upgrade, & Download Now!
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows also includes RealBand, your
All-in-One Audio Workstation and Accompaniment program - learn more. [my emphasis]
Here is the beginning of what PG Music says: Welcome to RealBand 2016!
RealBand is a fully-featured and powerful music arranging, sequencing, and digital recording program that is included free with Band-in-a-Box.
Use RealBand as a stand-alone music workstation, or together with Band-in-a-Box as an all-in-one sequencing program with automatic accompaniment.
If you find you don't need or use RealBand, it installs in a separate folder from BIAB. You could just delete that folder and you're all set; it will not affect BIAB.
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huertaaj, There are also some great tutorial videos at the below URL. http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htmThese might give some extra insight, too. Regards, Noel
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3) I tried the demo songs located in the "Artist Performance Sets" but even though it looks as if I can move the artist notes around using the Piano Roll view, it looks like my changes don't make a difference and the song sounds the same.
As mentioned, the notes you see have essentially been manually transcribed from the previously Recorded Audio. This is meant as an indicator to show you what was played, but in this case it is a one-way street, you can't alter the notes to change what was previously recorded. You can do this with notes on a MIDI track though, just not RealTracks. Welcome to the neighborhood.
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Band-in-a-Box (BiaB) is predominately an auto accompant (I'm a bad speller sometimes so please excuse the spelling) program. BiaB has four special tracks (drums, melody, audio and solo) and accompanying tracks (bass, piano, guitar and strings). You "build" a song by entering up to four chords for each bar or measure. The program's strength is defining the structure of a song by identifying the unique intro, one or more repeating choruses and a two, four or fading bars ending. The program does not normally or necessarily display the song in a linerly manner; the song is not displayed against a timeline.
RealBand (RB) is a "value added" program given to Band-in-a-Box users that also use the Windows operating system. RealBand is an adaptation of PG Music's digital audio workstation (daw) program, PowerTracks. As a daw, RealBand has 48 track capability that displays each track along a timeline so two differences immediately recognized are track count (8 vs 48) and song display (song structure vs timeline). RB has traditional daw features such as track editing but special functionality has been added to let the program work with BiaB song files. BiaB regenerates by track while RB can generate just highlighted track sections. RB can generate seven or eight selections to choose from (that's called multi-riff).
One way to think about how or when to use each program is to think about BiaB when you're perfecting song structure or how the song is laid out and RealBand when you're wanting to construct perfect instrument tracks.
Both programs can do much more but perfecting song structure versus perfecting tracks uses the strengths of each program.
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So , if I understand this correctly; Use BIAB to create the basic song or backing track. Then "somehow" open it in RealBand to do things like edit a midi drum pattern with the Piano Roll, lengthen the notes of the midi Strings track, copy/paste/replace RealTracks sections, record my voice and instrument on audio tracks along side the BIAB generate and RB edited tracks. Add VST and DXi effects, render the song to .wav or .mp3, etc...
Is that the basic idea?
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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That's about it, if you have specific melodies/harmonies, etc in mind.
RTs can't be changed unless you slice and dice. MIDI is as flexible as it's always been
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OK, getting the picture here but still a bit confused. When I open a song from one of the Artist Performance Sets I hear some nice music with realistic-sounding instruments. How did these artists perform those songs? Did they use their own instruments (like their own sax or guitar, etc.) or did they use a RealTrack instrument that is available to me? Are those like "loops" that I can use or is the "sound" that I hear (like the sax) something that I can replicate from scratch using my keyboard?
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RealTracks are 'LIVE' performances by artists. They will adapt to any chord sequence you enter into BIAB. There are Rythm, Melody and Soloist RTs. All of them play variations on your chord structure according to the style you chose. You cannot alter the outcome by 'editing them'. You can regenerate the BIAB tune you created as many times as you wish and save what you're happy with. Point is... you can save as many iterations of the RT performances you wish, then import them into a DAW and edit, slice and dice them until you hear what you want. Here is an example of how I altered a Demo and added different RTs and modified them in my DAW... http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13261813Hope, this helps.
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RealTracks and RealDrums are actual studio-recorded performances by real musicians, using real instruments. They are essentially audio samples of what was played by the artist. BiaB can use these pre-recorded sounds to form a complete song, including tracking the user's own chords, tempos and even key changes.
As an example, if you don't wish to use the RealTracks Sax sounds that are available, you can only create your own Sax sound using MIDI and a Sound Module. It's unlikely you'll get the same results, as all of the nuances of the live musician's performance are difficult to replicate with MIDI.
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2) I think RealBand uses real recorded instruments. Can't BIAB 2016 use these instruments? If so, why the need for RealBand?
BB only gives you a few tracks in a certain style. But lets say you use a hard rock style and decide you want a fiddle in it plus a dobro, and mandolin. The hard rock style has bass, drums, guitars, and no room for the other things in BB. So.... save the file in BB close it, and open it in RB. First, it populates the tracks that BB has in it's style. But now, you can add the other tracks by simply generating them. I use it all the time in this manner. That's why...well one reason why, you need real band.
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Just purchased and installed BIAB 2016. Never used this program before. If anyone can answer these questions I would appreciate it. I feel kind of lost without getting the answers to these questions.
1) Where is it mentioned that two programs get installed on my computer (BIAB 2016 and also RealBand) instead of just one?
2) I think RealBand uses real recorded instruments. Can't BIAB 2016 use these instruments? If so, why the need for RealBand?
3) I tried the demo songs located in the "Artist Performance Sets" but even though it looks as if I can move the artist notes around using the Piano Roll view, it looks like my changes don't make a difference and the song sounds the same.
4) More questions later if I can get these questions answered. Thanks!!! Hi Hubert, Welcome to the forum. You will find this is a great forum. Bottom line is that Band in a Box is an essential program for practice, there is no real competition and they know it. Real Tracks are fantastic and there is a huge selection. Just having the ability to change chords and keys with live tracks is worth a great deal, but... The whole program is cranky, unintuitive, unnecessarily hewn into two portions and very, very buggy. Bugs have been around for years, even decades before they are fixed. That's the reality, BIAB is in some kind of time warp, no 64bit, no VST, no touch, no real development, they think that being able to see a chord as you type is a real leap forward. That's not to say that there are not workarounds for most problems, so its always worth a post. Do remember that many features are MIDI only, as the original program was designed in this way, though this is rarely explained in the app. Z
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The whole program is cranky, unintuitive, unnecessarily hewn into two portions and very, very buggy. Bugs have been around for years, even decades before they are fixed. That's the reality, BIAB is in some kind of time warp, no 64bit, no VST, no touch, no real development, they think that being able to see a chord as you type is a real leap forward.
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On the other hand... I disagree with a few of those points and agree with a few others. BB/RB works smoothly and without issues or bugs for me. Sometimes I apply the updates PG sends out and like now, on 2016, I have not and yet it works fine. As far as it being 2 programs, that has never been an issue for me as you can run them both open at the same time. The 64bit controversy... yeah I agree they could come out with a 64 bit version, but it works well for what it is and what it does. They have no real competition and perhaps that's behind the slow progress as others have mentioned. Touch would be cool but none of my computers are touch screens so that doesn't matter to me. All in all, it's a great product that works well and does what nothing else out there at the moment can do.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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"All in all, it's a great product that works well and does what nothing else out there at the moment can do."
Exactly. It was my impression that 'seeing' the chords was no big development issue but rather answering a Wish List item that required a programming change.
When it was introduced to Biab, it was clear many Biab users were already familiar with Jbridge for other software they used. It's use was not expressed for those programs as a stopgap measure as it was here where there's a lot of desire for 64 bit function.
It's of no consequence other than curiosity if Biab users are on forums of the DAW programs they use, programs that are 64 bit, 192khz,24 or 32 floating bits and telling the staff how antiquated, outdated and they're lost in some time warp because their DAW cannot function like an old 32 bit, partially midi software called Band in a Box.
It seems to me, we Biab users, don't climb the ladder as high as the DAW's before we all fall off - having our final product squashed to a streaming mp3 or 14.1/16 CD.
My money's better spent on Mic's, keyboards, preamps, interfaces, midi sound modules and RealTracks.
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2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
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