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You can do that. Allanah posted a song some years ago that had parts of over 20 RT's in it. You do it in the Bars window. I believe you put the cursor on the bar you want to start with in the chord grid, open the bars window, select the RT for the instrument track you want. If you don't change it then that RT will be generated from that point to the end of the song. But, if you go back to the chord grid, select the bar you want that RT to end, you then go back to the bars window and select something else from that new point forward and so on. It's the same process as changing styles in and out of certain bars. I remember her song was amazing.
Now, I'm not saying it's any easier to do this in Biab than it would be in RB. I love RB. All I'm saying is this has been possible in Biab since the first RT's were created.
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Intriguing. Bob, are you saying you choose the same RealTrack name at several points in the song, and it only regenerates the 'new' one? I'm not sure how this works. To make sure my request is clear, I want to have the same RealTrack throughout the song, but be able to regenerate only, say, bars 10-16 because the rest of the BIAB song is fine. My understanding is BIAB generates the entire track. When you include a separate instrument on the track, each subsequent regeneration will regenerate the entire track but retain the chosen instruments. You have much more versatility and control over this feature if you use the Soloist function.
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...I use BIAB for rapid prototyping and then RB for the finetuning. Depending on what I'm doing I use Reaper for further processing the final result...
RealBand offers more visual information than BIAB while BIAB is faster when changing some detail of a tune. In RB for instance it is easier to add a RealTrack for just a couple of measures...
Ditto. I also find the Multiriff function in RB outstanding. It generates multiple different tracks of a chosen instrument. From those tracks, I then compile a track that best suits my song.
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...I use BIAB for rapid prototyping and then RB for the finetuning. Depending on what I'm doing I use Reaper for further processing the final result...
RealBand offers more visual information than BIAB while BIAB is faster when changing some detail of a tune. In RB for instance it is easier to add a RealTrack for just a couple of measures...
Ditto. I also find the Multiriff function in RB outstanding. It generates multiple different tracks of a chosen instrument. From those tracks, I then compile a track that best suits my song. Me too.
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Allanah has been mentioned. Does anyone know how she is doing lately? She had been a top poster and very active in helping others. She had a wonderful library of MIDI files and shared them freely.
I remember her having serious health issues and hope that she is well.
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All I remember is that someone mentioned that she was having problems, and then around 2011(?) or so her site disappeared.
The collections are still there on the server, but I have not seen the site in a long time....
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Allanah has been mentioned. Does anyone know how she is doing lately? She had been a top poster and very active in helping others. She had a wonderful library of MIDI files and shared them freely.
I remember her having serious health issues and hope that she is well. Don, I definitely know that she was active on the Forum Pages earlier this month (March). For Info Trevor
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In reading the forums, it seems many of the veteran users don't use Real Band. My impression may be wrong, and if it is, please let me know.
If I'm right, I am curious about the reasons. I want to strat recording my originals again but I don't want to start with Real Band if it has a lot of problems or significant limitations.
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I have been using Sonar for a number of years. I’m still using Sonar Producer 8.5. Why ?- well it works flawlessly and easily with BIAB, East-West 64bit Sound libraries:strings, brass, woodwinds voices and choirs with wordbuilder; QL silk; Fab Four; QL Ministry of Rock;QL RA;QL Goliath,QL Gypsy; Revalver III. Also Electiri6ity Stratocaster, Les Paul and other guitar sound libs and Real Guitar an Acou6tics libs and a few more. It all works so I’ve been reluctant to work with Real Band as there has been no need. BIAB provides in most cases a skeletal base to work with plus the addition of a selection of the above libs. Re. F
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While RB is a DAW for users who don't own one, RB is also a great extension tool for BIAB. It does many things BIAB can do and expands on them. There is no need to use RB as a DAW if you're into [put the name of your DAW preference here].
Sometimes, if your project goes on, it might be a step between two production. (Like: Have a RealTrack, a trombone maybe, play just two or three measures somewhere in the song. Generate just that instrument in the highlighted area of that track and export a time consistent audio file that fits nicely into the existing project.)
BIAB and RB are relatives sharing the same heritage. If BIAB is your friend, you can get along with RB.
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My reasons for not using Real Band (right or wrong) are:
1) I like the band to play variations (like real jazz band would), each time I replay a song
2) If I have not played a song for a while, I might want to change a few chords. If I am in Band in a Box, I can do that right away.
3) I can instantly change volumes of the various instruments in the mixer or all at the same time, even while the song is playing back.
4) I have not noticed any better sound quality in Real Band and I am so use to BB, that it seems to be easier for me.
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With a multi-function program like BiaB, RB, and Power Tracks, I suspect most people don't use all of the features.
But then I don't listen to all the stations on my radio either.
Simply pick the ones you like, whether it's simply an auto-accompaniment practice tool or if you use dozens of the functions. It's all good.
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2b,
Many users here have the following workflow:
1: Create the initial song in BiaB, chords, melody, structure, style etc.
2: Import it into RealBand for fine-tuning, adding additional tracks beyond BiaB's track limitation, regenerate only certain sections of the song rather than the entire song as BiB is limited to, etc.
3: Optionally, export the RB tracks to a different DAW for final mastering, mixing etc.
Many times, there's no need to go past Step 1.
So I think that many users start with BiaB, and take it to RealBand if required. Some might skip Step 2 all together.
Others will chip in with their work flow.
HTH
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1,2,3... just like that. Trying to skip a step is like trying to use a 3 legged stool with only 2 legs.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I agree with Herb of course.
Difference with me is I like to spend as little time as possible in BB, and get on with the RB stage.
Once I'm done getting chords, tempo and a style selected, I'm ready to start chopping it into verses, bridges, etc. in RB
Copy/Paste/Generate/reGenerate .. that's the fun part for me.
The option of coming up with a whole new section and being able to generate it at will, where I want it, at any point in the project timeline is enjoyed here.
Then I don't leave until I need to. I'd rather keep these same options available as long as I can.
Another DAW is an option, but not always needed.
Then again, I'm a long time Powertracks user, so the RB UI has been familiar to me for decades.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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2b,
Many users here have the following workflow:
1: Create the initial song in BiaB, chords, melody, structure, style etc.
2: Import it into RealBand for fine-tuning, adding additional tracks beyond BiaB's track limitation, regenerate only certain sections of the song rather than the entire song as BiB is limited to, etc.
3: Optionally, export the RB tracks to a different DAW for final mastering, mixing etc.
Many times, there's no need to go past Step 1.
So I think that many users start with BiaB, and take it to RealBand if required. Some might skip Step 2 all together.
Others will chip in with their work flow.
HTH
Trev
1,2,3... just like that. Trying to skip a step is like trying to use a 3 legged stool with only 2 legs. Well I would contend it’s much easier to walk on two legs than it is on three. Step2 is not necessary for me because once I have dragged the first generation of tracks to the DAW from BIAB I can then replace one of the instruments (or more) in BIAB with an another, regenerate and then drag that new instrument (or a number) to a new track or tracks in the DAW. You can then select sections of the tracks as active as required by zeroing out the volume line in the track for parts of the track(s) not required. It actually allows greater flexibility since it is an easy matter to change active parts in the added tracks on the run while in the DAW. That's basically the way I work.
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You can then select sections of the tracks as active as required by zeroing out the volume line in the track for parts of the track(s) not required. It actually allows greater flexibility since it is an easy matter to change active parts in the added tracks on the run while in the DAW.
That's basically the way I work. Me too.
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You can then select sections of the tracks as active as required by zeroing out the volume line in the track for parts of the track(s) not required. It actually allows greater flexibility since it is an easy matter to change active parts in the added tracks on the run while in the DAW.
That's basically the way I work. Me too. Me three! That is how I work with RTs.
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I use RB to generate the "extra" tracks....
In BB, I get the 5 basic tracks.... bass, drums, 2 guitars and piano.....
In RB I get those generally regenerated..... and that's also where I get my dobro, fiddle, steel, mando, and B3... the most common 5 extra RB tracks I tend to use. If I have a rock style in BB, it will never generate a fiddle or mando.... so for me, RB is a very important part of the formula.
And that's what makes the PG stuff so useful.... there's not just one way it can be used. ten people could use it 10 different ways and none of them would be wrong.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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