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Is that possible? I have a new internal HD (Drive F) and would like to install Windows 10 on that drive, while my boot drive C: still has XP on it. Is that possible? If there is a reboot during the installations of Win 10 to F, will the installation fail as the machine would more than likely boot from C ? Edit: we're talking two separate physical drives).Any ideas on this one? This is actually my wife's machine ... she is trying to decide which way to go. Your help would be appreciated greatly!  I know, we have some experts on this subject among our users here Thanks so much!
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yes but your Win 10 drive will BECOME C at boot (and your XP will become some other Drive letter) you need to read a LOT before even attempting this This is GENERIC http://www.howtogeek.com/214477/how-to-dual-boot-two-or-more-versions-of-windows/this is specific (and I think it's THE identical artical I used to do MY XP and 7 with two physical drives, and not I will be ADDING win 10 on a 3rd drive and I will be TRI-booting here soon) here is a dual for Win 7 and XP http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8057-dual-boot-installation-windows-7-xp.htmlWin 10 and XP is very similar to above Install oldest first, then next (younger), then the next younger, etc. more http://www.pagestart.com/winxpdbwin10tp1206141.htmlHOWEVER having Win Xp in the multi boot lineup has one big issue: your Win 7 and win 10 restore points will be WIPED out ever time you boot the machine - it makes no difference which OS you boot into (XP, 7 or 10) WIN XP is FIRST and has the "boot loader" it doesn't like where/how restore points are saved and sees them as bad and deletes them YOU NEED TO HIDE your Win 10 (and or win 7) drives from Win XP (don't need to hide Win XP from Win 7 or 10). There are articles how to to do this http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/127417-system-restore-points-stop-xp-dual-boot-delete.htmlI have my Win XP come up as drive Z (when booting Win 7) when booting Win XP it sees the Win 7 as a BLANK drive Z but it's not accessible (unless I do some really stupid administrative stuff while in XP) READ a lot before wasting time with multiple re-installs or wrong order of installs, that require RE-installs, or worse yet wiping out current installs which brings me to: (before others chime in with panic): MAKE a FULL IMAGE of your current working OS drive before starting! Good Luck Larry
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Great advice, Larry ... I'll do some reading for sure!
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Just pick one and use the extra month of time to write songs and enjoy life! 
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Just pick one and use the extra month of time to write songs and enjoy life! LOL - I might just do that
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Have done dual boot or triple boot with xp in past, doing triple boot at the moment, 2 of windows 7 and one of 10. As far as I am aware though I could very well be wrong, the MBR (master boot record) has to be on the oldest OS in this case xp, so that will be your active drive. If the MBR somehow becomes corrupted then 10 will probably not start and you will have a do a repair. An invaluable tool to use for dual booting is easyBCD, I use it all the time. Among the many things you can do with it, is for example clone an OS (like windows 7) to one of your partitions, then use easyBCD to point the boot sequence to that partition at computer start up, giving you a dual boot. Its not complicated to use, though you can mess up just clicking around on it. You can get a free copy though they have some chargeable plans. http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/I never could get it to work with xp though unless the main active drive was xp. I don't think there will be any problem installing windows 10 on f and keeping windows xp on c, but just in case you aren't aware you don't get a free upgrade from xp, only from 7 onwards. As regards drive letters windows 10 when you boot it will see itself as c drive from within my computer( my pc) and if you boot to xp it will see itself as c as well. No big problem as windows doesn't care about drive letters as someone told me once in a forum musiclover
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Correct, the MBR is on the oldest OS - and all the dual/multiple boot instructions you find on the WWW including MS sites explain this and also recommend to install oldest OS first, next oldest second, etc.
Yes you CAN install OS's in any order you want but that leads to a lots of issues (misery as far as I'm concerned) and after the fact gymnastics (like needing utilities like easyBCD) to get the boots to work correctly.
The MBR being on the Win XP drive is also why you need to HIDE the other OS drives (physical or logical) from Windows XP (see instructions above) because it's the reason WIN XP wipes out the other OS's restore points.
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Just pick one and use the extra month of time to write songs and enjoy life! ^^^What he said....
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I used to play with dual booting operating systems, but I generally found myself using one over the other for the most part. It was cool to learn how to do it, but it wasn't practical for me on a day-to-day basis. So, I just made sure all my apps worked in the new one (or found the very few replacements - usually utility programs - for those that didn't).
Now I find if I get nostalgic, I just run the other operating systems as a virtual machine.
I went full-speed ahead with Windows 10 on both my laptop and desktop, and at least for my equipment, haven't looked back. All my audio devices work properly and all my major applications do as well. The only real modification I made to it was to use Stardock's Start10 start menu program, because even though the start menu in Win10 is better, I still don't really care for it.
The biggest problem with dual-booting Windows XP with one of the higher level Windows is what has been previously stated. It will absolutely remove your restore points. Having been saved before (occasionally, not often) by reverting to a previous restore point, that ultimately became a show-stopper.
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I always use a dual boot for online banking, means restarting my pc, but no big deal on a SSD.
I think its worth it for that extra layer of security, just have a dedicated banking partition, no way as I going to do general browsing and banking on the same windows partition.
Paranoid, maybe, but I like it that way.
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The biggest problem with dual-booting Windows XP with one of the higher level Windows is what has been previously stated. It will absolutely remove your restore points. Having been saved before (occasionally, not often) by reverting to a previous restore point, that ultimately became a show-stopper.
BUT the FIX is trivial: HIDE the Win 7, or 8, or 10 drive from XP! (and again I wouldn't trust to restore points anyway - they don't store EVERYTHING - so there is RISK if that's your only recovery plan) But you are right if you don't need XP: move on. If you don't need Win 7: move on. Try to get to one OS - make your life simple. Be nice if I could leave Win XP in the dust but can't, ~95% customer driven I have to "stay in sync" to support them (they are the definition of monolithic and are more stubborn than I am) and the rest is personal (RS-232 equipment that will not work in Win 7 , 8, 10 and I won't dump it in local landfill) Re: Win 10. I don't see the NEED and am fully underwhelmed by it anyway. I hate working (maintenance or giving assistance) on my wife's Win 10 laptop. When I have to boot her laptop up it just reinforces my "no hurry to move to Win 10" mindset. Larry
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Larry - how do you deal with security issues for Windows XP, since it went end-of-life 2 years ago? I bet it's a nightmare dealing with that. At least Windows 7 is good until 2020 for extended support (although mainstream support ended last year). For me, I don't know if it's a matter of under- or over-whelmed, but Win10 has so far been pretty stable on both my computers (as well as my wife's laptop) and that was with the in-place upgrade. I've done a clean install on a new disk for my laptop, but until I find time to reload all the apps, I'll have to stick with my in-place upgrade. I hear you about needing the old O/S for your serial port stuff. Luckily, I don't have to worry about that. By the way, I still fire up MS-DOS occasionally, if for anything, to remind myself how far we've come. There was a time when I did a lot of writing with WordStar, later WordPerfect, as well as database work using dBase III or Borland Paradox, and programming in Turbo Pascal.
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Yes, we just helped a company with a dozen XP machines (out of the 116 they have).
Unfortunately, once an XP system got hacked and allowed access to internal networks every machine had to be checked .. some restored from repairs or wipe/reloads, some restored from backups (no Windows restore points used that I know of).
Cleaning up the mess that an XP machine can allow in (even when you are trying hard to not keep things as updated as possible) is no fun for either side.
We quoted them replacements with a warning and disclaimer a while back, so the onus was on them.
Keeping one at home is one thing .. but an enterprise network with XP machines on it is becoming a very real threat.
Imagine if a company Share or other critical resource is suddenly gone (or locked) ..
everything comes to a grinding halt.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Actually keeping XP safe is also as easy as keeping any NETWORK safe, those customer machines are NOT connected to the (sewer) internet. The network(s) are air gapped (they have been since Win 95).
When I run XP at home I just unplug the Ethernet cable, I PHYSICALLY disconnect (aka air gap), I'm not running XP to connect to outside world anyway I'm running XP to do work or relax with hobbies.
But Win XP (or 95 or Win 10) is not going to be the big security issue in near future, it will be CLOUD storage and worse cloud computing.
just call me Chicken Little (aka Larry)
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I agree, if that were the case (no XP machines were allowed on the public network), the above mentioned issue would not have happened.
Unfortunately a lot of people and companies do not appear to embrace this... and choose to ignore it. Even when offered a solution beforehand.
I only mention it here because people may continue to use XP as usual and not realize the risk.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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