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Hi there ! I'm new to BIAB I play mainly Jazz/Fusion guitar and are wondering what I should choose out of the huge selection of software packages. I like the idea of real drums and everything that sounds real  I also wonder what the difference is between BAIB and RealBand ? Right now I got my eyes on the First-time Purchase $129 package What do you think ? Thanks
Jazz! Sure - But far from smooth !
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Welcome to the friendliest forum that I know. If you can afford it, get the UltraPlusPaK or the EverythingPAK. These Paks are the most complete (there is also the Audiophile with better sounding sound files because these are not compressed like the .wma in the other Paks). If you're not satisfied, there is an unconditional 30days money back guarantee. The difference between BIAB and RealBand: Both share some core components BIAB creates rather fast and easy an accompaniment in different styles. I use it mainly for "rabbit prototyping." RB is a digital audio workstation with some capabilities of BIAB, but exceeds some of them and some are not as powerful. Both programs are part of the package. Both programs go together very well.
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The $129 first time package is what is called the "Pro-Pak"; however, that title might be a little misleading. The actual BIAB and RealBand programs are exactly the same regardless of the package you get; the difference is in the number of add-ons you get - RealTracks, RealDrums, MIDI Supertracks, MIDI styles, etc. The Pro-Pak is really the entry level version of Band-in-a-Box/RealBand, so you can get a sense of what it can do for you; however, it is extremely limited in the number of styles and sounds you get (you get about 1/10th the RealTracks in the Pro-Pak as you do in the UltraPlusPak or the Everything-Pak. However, if you can't afford the Ultra- or Everything-Pak, I would definitely go with the Mega-Pak over the Pro-Pak, as you get almost twice as much with it, and it will allow you to be much more creative. And as Guido said, there is a 30-day money-back guarantee, so you have plenty of time to try it out and see if it's what you are looking for. Just so there is no confusion, since you don't have BIAB yet, you cannot order the PlusPak, as this package requires you to already have the previous version of BIAB (2015) installed on your computer. This pak just updates your 2015 with the new stuff from 2016. Look carefully at the options you get in the various BIAB packages, and if you are confused, please feel free to ask us here.
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magicaldog,
Welcome to the forum!
The good news is all Windows based packages of Band-in-a-Box include both Band-in-a-Box (BiaB) and RealBand (RB) software programs. So you will able to try them both and examine their capabilities.
While each package includes the same programs, each differs with amount of accessory content (styles, RealTracks, RealDrums, etc.) included.
The Pro and Mega Paks include some, but not all accessory content. The content is bundled into "bands" where each band addresses a music genre. The packages are the most inexpensive way to learn what the software programs offer and how they work while still having examples of the different types of content the programs can use.
I started out by purchasing the Pro Pak too and I'm glad I did as it gave me an opportunity to learn the operation of the software programs without also getting familiar with thousands of hours of available accessory content.
Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
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Wow Thanks guys ! I feel quite dizzy after checking out what is available My main concern is that I don't want to pay for something I wont be using. I am mainly interested in Jazz-Latin-Funk-Blues MIDI styles doesn't interest me very much ! I just found the Jazz RealPAKs page which sounds really nice ! Seems like buying the "Pro-Pak" for $ 129 and then adding the Real stuff I like is the best way for me to go !
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+ $ 600 is a bit over the top for me right now  ! I went for the $ 129 Pro Pak + RealTracks Set 238 Downloading right now but it is sloooow ( 350kB/sec)
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+ $ 600 is a bit over the top for me right now ! I went for the $ 129 Pro Pak + RealTracks Set 238 Downloading right now but it is sloooow ( 350kB/sec) Take it for a spin and post any questions here. Welcome to the Forum!!
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I went for the $ 129 Pro Pak + RealTracks Set 238
I think this is a good decision for a starting point. You won't be sorry with this, and you can always upgrade. And, welcome to the neighborhood!
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Thanks everybody
BIAB works and sounds great but for some reason I get a Blue Screen every time I connect my USB Hub after installing BIAB ???
Does anybody here know how to authorize Sampletank 2.5 that came with my order of BIAB ??? (The PDF file says: The Serial Number is the code written on the Registration Card)
Only problem is that there are no Registration Card since I downloaded the product ???
Does anybody use Sampletank 2.5 ???
Thanks
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To get Sampletank authorised, you'll need to create an account at IK Multimedia. I suggest doing this first. When completed, login to IK Multimedia and you'll find a section under Support called "Authorization Manager". Download this and use it to get Sampletank up and running.
Also, once Sampletank is authorised, you'll probably need to set BIAB so that it runs in Administrator mode (this depends on your operating system). To do this, right-click on the BIAB shortcut, select Properties and then, under the Compatibility tab, activate "Run as administrator".
All the best,
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Is there any tutorial on how to setup Sampletank to work with BIAB ?
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Thanks everybody
BIAB works and sounds great but for some reason I get a Blue Screen every time I connect my USB Hub after installing BIAB ???
Does anybody here know how to authorize Sampletank 2.5 that came with my order of BIAB ??? (The PDF file says: The Serial Number is the code written on the Registration Card)
Only problem is that there are no Registration Card since I downloaded the product ???
Does anybody use Sampletank 2.5 ???
Thanks Are you trying to run BiaB using external storage through the USB hub? Does the USB hub have anything to do with using BiaB? I'm trying to figure out if the USB hub, blue screen and trying to use BiaB are related. Using Sampletank with BiaB is a separate issue addressed by other posters with better information about that issue.
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Thanks
Is there any tutorial on how to setup Sampletank to work with BIAB ? After a lot of grief trying to set up Sample Tank for the first time. I called PG support and the support TECH took over remote control of my computer and set it up. I'm not so proud that I will not share this with you here on the Forum. PG support is the greatest in my opinion. Why waste hours when it only takes minutes to solve this problem in this way.
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Is it really that difficult !
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It's not difficult, but it's just several steps to go through to authorize SampleTank.
I actually wrote up something on how to do this. I'll see if I can find it, although, it was quite a while ago.
EDIT: I found the posting I made, but unfortunately, the file is no longer at that link anymore. I'll see if I have the file on my computer when I get home from work tonight (unless someone beats me to it).
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I am confused !
I get both Bass and Drums on the same channel when assigning Realtracks.
Why is the count-in sometimes snare an sometimes sticks ?
Any help appreciated !
Thanks
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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