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Can I unfold a song with repeats? If so how?


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Earl:

Go to Edit > Song Form > Unfold

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IMHO... the best way to work


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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
IMHO... the best way to work


I totally agree. This is the only way I work.


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One more vote for unfolded songs. Gives me total control over the process.


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Originally Posted By: Takamine
One more vote for unfolded songs. Gives me total control over the process.


Ditto that!!


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By far the best way to go.


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UNFOLD
the nuumber one answer. Actually, never fold is even better.

Then use the fake book endings, repeats etc to get the printout.


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Originally Posted By: earl kirby
Can I unfold a song with repeats? If so how?


Earl,

"Unfold" applies to multiple choruses. If by your above statement you are meaning that you song has repeats, maybe first and second endings (etc.), then unfold will not work (as far as I understand it at least). What you need to do is to select the the 'Fakesheet' button and deactivate the top option.



This will expand the view and the repeats will be shown in greyed-out sections.

If you want, you can remove all repeats by entering into the repeat dialogue that was used to set them up and select "Delete All" (on the bottom right of the image shown below).



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Thank you all. Think I'll not worry about repeats when doing future tunes.


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When I work a new song, especially with melody, I use repeats. It is easier and faster to do "global" changes, like a chord or a note of the melody gets changed in all repeats.

For the final finish I unfold into one chorus, change the chords a little from chorus to chorus, add an intro and an ending -- and then I transfer that into RealBand.


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This looks like the best of both solutions.

I do something similar by creating one pass and the copying it as many times as I need to, and tweak melody and chords as needed, but then I use the fakebook repeats, 1st 2nd endings etc. to bring it back to a printable format.

We've all got out work flows that we use, but it's nice to see the alternative.


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Dave, have you investigated the Song Form Dialog Box?

I do this I enter in BAB the (A) chords for the intro,(B) chords for verse,(C) chords for the Chorus, (D) Chords for a bridge, and (E) chords for an ending.

Then go into the Song form dialog box. Indicate the parts as A,B,C,D,E, where they all start and how many bars in each part.

Then in the bottom I put

ABCBCDCE

This song would go Intro,V1,C,V2,C,Bridge,C,Ending

If I want to change the song form to add a verse I just save the song I'm working on as SONGNAME2 Verses.SGU

Go to songform dialog box

at the bottom enter

ABCBCDBCE

This song would go Intro,V1,C,V2,C,Bridge,V3,C,Ending

and save the song as SONGNAME3versus.SGU


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The last time I tried this, it only worked with melody (and probably chords) but not with lyrics, They stayed, and the melody moved around them. It was a real mess.

It was a good idea that didn't fully work.

I just like copy bars from-to. You have total control of which bars, chords & lyrics and bar information.


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It works for me with the chord structure, and the melody track, even solos. Before I enter lyrics. But don't freeze tracks and remember to regenerate the song. Sometimes just hitting the play button doesn't regenerate as well as using the regenerate button.

But, use the method that works best for you.


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