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@ Mario I'll check that out
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The problem I have with those all in one mixer/recorders is that they are not conducive to using the VST instruments and drum software.....and of course BB/RB is hard to put on one of them.
If you're into audio recording of small bands.... yeah, they might be perfect.
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>>>"The problem I have with those all in one mixer/recorders is that they are not conducive to using the VST instruments and drum software.....and of course BB/RB is hard to put on one of them. "<<<
That is the intention and very concept of 'all in the box' - self contained recorders. They come inclusive with software, OS and effects to complete every phase within the unit. They offer basic, solid software and effects that work flawlessly within the box.
One can start with an idea and finish with a complete Album without any other computer component or hardware. The DP-24 has aux sends and returns so that hardware the artist owns, has access to, or needs for a project can be added the same as any mixer.
The artist has access to any and all VST's, drum machines, controllers, keyboards, BB/RB or any other DAW.
*** all the files can easily be transferred/imported/exported into any computer for further processing *** whether it is a mac or PC.
Connected to a computer thru USB, the DP-24 is recognized as a drive. The unit itself has a folder specifically for communication between the unit and a computer. It works exactly the same as an external drive or thumb drive as far as transferring files. Or, you can simply pull the SD card and insert it into the computer.....
"and of course BB/RB is hard to put on one of them." You don't put programs on the unit, you transfer the DP-24 files into your DAW the same as you import BB/RB files into Sonar or another DAW.
Conversely, you can import BB/RB files into the DP-24 and complete your mix the old analog way.
Besides losing the CD burner/player, the upgraded DP-24 also eliminated midi ports. The older units with midi ports could interface with DAWs with a lot of midi CC commands and function as a basic midi controller or control the DP-24 from your DAW.
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The OP might also want to check out the new one from Mackie: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DL1608LRegards, Bob
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I have the smaller (8-channel) version of that Mackie, the 806. It is controlled by my iPad and iPhone. Works great for small shows.
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This new gear is incredible. I still have my Bob Mackie-designed Tapco 6000R mixer. 6 channels, 2-band EQ and a spring reverb! Woohoo!  Regards, Bob
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@Charlie I like the X32s, but the core would require purchasing the S16 for audio inputs. If I am reading the literature correctly.
@Matt I like Mackie Gear. I just don't see why they are stuck on MAC. I don't have an iPhone, iPad or Mac laptop. So I cannot see investing in a system that requires purchasing an iPad. If I had one this would be one of my first choices.
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We have an x32 at our church. It has a bunch of analog inputs on the back of the unit that can be used. There are smaller x-series items from Behringer, like the X-18 which IS multichannel USB audio interface (18x18), AND a mixer as the same time. You supply the iPad or Android tablet for the controls. 16 midas preamps on board. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/X18 $500 I think I just found my next interface. Thanks for the topic!
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Thanks rock star This is definitely in the running for my final choice. At this price it is hard to find anything with multiple digital channel outs, much less 18X18.
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