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Hi team,
I want to add a few Real Track solos to a song. The song is 150 bars and I want a trombone solo at bar 41 for 16 bars and a trumpet solo at 73 for 16 bars. The dialog boxes are unclear as to how to add these. I managed to get them in there at one point using the Custom option button, but ended up with 4 solos instead of 2. I couldn't find out how to delete the extra 2 solos. The videos are totally dated and the PDF is completely useless, unless I'm missing something.
Along these same lines, is there a way to have a track play for a certain bar range? In other words can you turn a track on or off where you want? That would be a really nice feature. Thanks.
Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.
"If everyone played a musical instrument, we wouldn't need police officers or armies." Lee B.
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I'd use RealBand for this. It works about the same as BIAB does in this case, but it is a little more comfortable to create a solo for the fraction of a song.
If you don't know how, just ask.
Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
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Lee, Along these same lines, is there a way to have a track play for a certain bar range? In other words can you turn a track on or off where you want? That would be a really nice feature. To do this, right-click on the chord sheet at the bar you want to mute the track(s) and then select Bar Settings. Bar Settings will allow you to bring sounds in and out of a mix. Also... I agree with the above that Realband is much more versatile when creating a solo. That solo can then be brought into BIAB as a Performance file. When I get home from work tonight, I'll go through how I use the Soloist. IT might offer some insight. Regards, Noel
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Thanks guys! Never thought about RealBand. It makes sense. GHinCH-good advice. Seems like it worked  . The documentation still needs an overhaul.
Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.
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You're welcome. I'm happy when it worked.
What I like when using RB is that I can start the solo one or two beats early and end it one or two beats late and kind-a fade in and fade out. So I have a small overlap.
RB seems to be more eager to re-generate than BIAB. When I have a version I like, I render it to a wav file. I can use that for the final version -- as long as I don't change the chord progression substantially.
Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
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RB seems to be more eager to re-generate than BIAB. Don't understand this statement. RB is LESS eager to regen, that's one of the main reasons for using it. Unless you're working with the blue Biab tracks. The first thing you should do after you open a Biab song in RB is change the Biab tracks to regular tracks. RB won't regen anything that you don't have highlighted. Bob
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Hello Lee, Hi team,
I want to add a few Real Track solos to a song. The song is 150 bars and I want a trombone solo at bar 41 for 16 bars and a trumpet solo at 73 for 16 bars. The dialog boxes are unclear as to how to add these. I managed to get them in there at one point using the Custom option button, but ended up with 4 solos instead of 2. I couldn't find out how to delete the extra 2 solos. The videos are totally dated and the PDF is completely useless, unless I'm missing something.
Along these same lines, is there a way to have a track play for a certain bar range? In other words can you turn a track on or off where you want? That would be a really nice feature. Thanks. First, start with a RealTrack assigned to your track. If you want to start out with silence, choose the RealTrack called silence (#1152). There are a couple of options. One easy way to alternate soloists is to use the Medley feature in the RealTracks Picker, although this limits you to switching soloists every "x" number of bars/choruses etc. The other option is to use Bar changes (Bar Settings dialog). Press F5 at the bar you want to switch at, and then press the RealTracks button. 
Last edited by Andrew - PG Music; 06/07/16 11:50 AM.
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RB seems to be more eager to re-generate than BIAB. Don't understand this statement. RB is LESS eager to regen, that's one of the main reasons for using it. Unless you're working with the blue Biab tracks. The first thing you should do after you open a Biab song in RB is change the Biab tracks to regular tracks. RB won't regen anything that you don't have highlighted. Bob You are right for any user with experience in RB. But if you have never worked with RB in this way and you work on a project without the comfort of having time to learn, then you could appreciate this statement as a helpful hint that being careful might pay off. On the other hand your post offers some helpful advice for the novice RB user.
Desktop; i7-2600k, 8 GB mem., Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
Laptop: i5-2410M, 4 GB mem, Win 10 Pro, BIAB 2017; RB 2017 - latest build
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Wow, many thanks Andrew! That might be exactly what I'm looking for. I would have never found that.
It's one thing to have accurate information in a document. The other important thing is, "Can users find it?" You just bridged the gap my friend.
Gear: Tyros 5, MOX8, SoundCraft EFX12 mixer, two Bose L1 Compacts, Yamaha HS-8 monitors, BIAB 2016 UltraPlusPAK, Cubase 8, Steinberg UR-44 interface.
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