Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#360641 08/12/16 07:44 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 92
J
Jakob Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
J
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 92
Just curious to know if anyone has had any success with using biab for music production and have you gotten any placement in tv/movies


Dell Studio 16 Laptop i7 with 256 gig SSD
BIAB, Reaper, Encore, Sibelius
Roland SD-50
Jakob #360686 08/12/16 03:25 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Originally Posted By: Jakob
Just curious to know if anyone has had any success with using biab for music production and have you gotten any placement in tv/movies


Yep. Got quite a few tunes made in BB/RB/Sonar that are in production libraries and several placements in a number of TV shows and made for TV documentary movies.

Writing and recording quality matter. It has to be broadcast quality and the music has to be something they are looking for and can use in the situation.

It also takes some luck and a library who actively plugs your music to the folks doing the shows.

But yes... I've gotten some placements and I think there's a few others here also who have done likewise.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Jakob #360719 08/13/16 01:29 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 125
A
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
A
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 125
Something I might be interested in doing too in the future, so Thanks for info Guitarhacker.

I think I have read a few threads of yours before when you talked about this.

If I remember correctly its best to do short segments of music like 15, 30, 45 60 seconds each mainly in mono.

So how do I go about this, fire up biab, create mainly instrumentals in different style to the above times. Make sure that the mix is right and its broadcast quality. Do my research about the libraries to submit to, and take it from there.

I would imagine no real money to be made from this, its the Kudos thing knowing that your tune has been picked and knowing that your music is available for this purpose.

And then if a cheque does ever arrive no matter how small, the nice feeling of satisfaction of knowing that the music was used in a professional production.

Axey


Last edited by axeplayer; 08/13/16 01:30 AM.
Jakob #362622 08/27/16 10:07 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 92
J
Jakob Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
J
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 92
Thanks for the info that's good to know especially if I can mix some original stuff and beef it up with BIAB.

If you guys haven't heard of this course you might want to check him out I thought it was a bunch of crap when I first clicked on the link but this guy is dead on the money I'm taking his course right now:

https://musicmakescash.com/optin-8972193

Last edited by Jakob; 08/27/16 10:15 AM.

Dell Studio 16 Laptop i7 with 256 gig SSD
BIAB, Reaper, Encore, Sibelius
Roland SD-50
Jakob #362654 08/27/16 12:40 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Jacob,

I lost $ 1.50 on sale and delivery for my one CD.

http://www.bmi.com/news/entry/10_things_you_need_to_know_about_placing_music_on_tv_and_in_films

Thought this may be in interest also.

Good luck!


FrankB

Down The Street vs2015 12-03-2014
Win7, AMD QuadA8-5500,16GB,2TeraHD, Komplete 10
PG Ultra Plus 2016,Alesis 12USB, Sonar Platinum
Jakob #362979 08/30/16 01:46 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
It's fun to read your PRO statement. It lists the songs they used, the show it was used in, how long the song segment was in the show and how much it earned for you.

It's sometimes only used for 5 seconds or less and earns you less than a nickle. I think the largest song earning for a single cue use was $2.57 where it was played in the background of the show for close to a minute.

Yeah, until you have thousands of cues being used the money is not the reason you do this. My first BMI check (which is taxable income) was enough for my wife and I to go have a happy meal at the golden arches with an apple pie for dessert.

You do it because you enjoy writing the cues... and you enjoy that your music is being used by someone else to set the scene and mood in a show or movie.

Yeah, it's possible to use BB/RB to do it all but it really helps if you can provide some live instrument in that cue. And the quality is paramount.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Originally Posted By: Jakob
Just curious to know if anyone has had any success with using biab for music production and have you gotten any placement in tv/movies


Yep. Got quite a few tunes made in BB/RB/Sonar that are in production libraries and several placements in a number of TV shows and made for TV documentary movies.

Writing and recording quality matter. It has to be broadcast quality and the music has to be something they are looking for and can use in the situation.

It also takes some luck and a library who actively plugs your music to the folks doing the shows.

But yes... I've gotten some placements and I think there's a few others here also who have done likewise.


Hi GuitarHacker,

Thats fantastic to hear! - What TV show projects did you work on that you used Band-in-a-Box on?


Cheers,
Joe
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Originally Posted By: Joseph -PG Music


Hi GuitarHacker,

Thats fantastic to hear! - What TV show projects did you work on that you used Band-in-a-Box on?


It's been a while now but, yeah, I got a few tunes that were composed and created in BB/RB placed into some TV shows and made for TV documentary films. The music used some or all of the tracks that were created in BB/RB.

A few "reality TV shows" including Hollywood Hillbillies and Beverly Hills Pawn used some of my cues in several episodes each. I'd have to pull the BMI statement up, but I think both shows used my cues in 2 or 3 different episodes, and multiple times in each episode.

And a series of made for TV documentary films from the series... Ten things you didn't know about_____. with placements in the TTYDKA Civil Rights and TTYDKA Texas episodes.

Approximately 70 individual cues were used between those shows and movies..... varying from 5 second cues to several that were over a minute each.

The thing is, no one bothers to call or email that your music is being used. I guess they're just too busy. So, the way you find out, unless you happen to be watching the show when it airs.... is to wait 9 months or so later when the PRO statement and check show up in the mail.

When they become available on Netflix, maybe then I can hear how they used the music I wrote.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Jakob #363882 09/04/16 04:54 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,607
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,607
If they are going to use it for the main theme song (intro and credits) they let you know ahead of time, otherwise it's pretty mush a trust thing.
There was a boating show in London/Windsor/Toronto area on Saturday mornings where the theme song used BiaB/RB tracks. I only know because I did the production side and generated/comp'd a few of the tracks.
Ed Bulmer (forum member who has been absent lately) gets the writing credit for that one.
FWIW, all the production work was done in RB, using various VSTs including Ozone of course..
I still have the seq files on a drive around here somewhere.


I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
rharv #363980 09/05/16 03:50 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Originally Posted By: rharv
If they are going to use it for the main theme song (intro and credits) they let you know ahead of time, otherwise it's pretty mush a trust thing.
There was a boating show in London/Windsor/Toronto area on Saturday mornings where the theme song used BiaB/RB tracks. I only know because I did the production side and generated/comp'd a few of the tracks.
Ed Bulmer (forum member who has been absent lately) gets the writing credit for that one.
FWIW, all the production work was done in RB, using various VSTs including Ozone of course..
I still have the seq files on a drive around here somewhere.


Yes... if your music is used in a major way... as you say, the theme song and predominately throughout, or exclusively.... then yes, they are in touch with you beforehand and chances are really good you're an active writer for that show on a paid basis plus performance royalties.

In my case, it was incidental use and no notice was given.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Originally Posted By: Joseph -PG Music


Hi GuitarHacker,

Thats fantastic to hear! - What TV show projects did you work on that you used Band-in-a-Box on?


It's been a while now but, yeah, I got a few tunes that were composed and created in BB/RB placed into some TV shows and made for TV documentary films. The music used some or all of the tracks that were created in BB/RB.

A few "reality TV shows" including Hollywood Hillbillies and Beverly Hills Pawn used some of my cues in several episodes each. I'd have to pull the BMI statement up, but I think both shows used my cues in 2 or 3 different episodes, and multiple times in each episode.

And a series of made for TV documentary films from the series... Ten things you didn't know about_____. with placements in the TTYDKA Civil Rights and TTYDKA Texas episodes.

Approximately 70 individual cues were used between those shows and movies..... varying from 5 second cues to several that were over a minute each.

The thing is, no one bothers to call or email that your music is being used. I guess they're just too busy. So, the way you find out, unless you happen to be watching the show when it airs.... is to wait 9 months or so later when the PRO statement and check show up in the mail.

When they become available on Netflix, maybe then I can hear how they used the music I wrote.



I remember the TTYDKA series! - That is excellent, its so refreshing to hear the software being used for commercial projects!

Were you using an Audiophile edition of Band-in-a-Box? We have the option available for studios and productions that demand the high quality uncompressed files for projects. Seen here: http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.audiophile.htm


Cheers,
Joe
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,867
No...I don't have the audiophile version. The normal version has excellent quality and that's what matters. As long as the mix is balanced and EQ'd properly for broadcast they can use it.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!

All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!

It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!

The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.

The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.

Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.

Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.

Holiday Weekend Hours

As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:

April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours

Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!

— Team PG

Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!

If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!

If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!

Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,205
Posts801,934
Members40,068
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
Newest Members
brekkea, isledge, Gtrplr66, Mando Kat, GlennMans
40,067 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 117
zedd 110
DC Ron 100
rsdean 90
Noel96 80
Today's Birthdays
mike5256
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5