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John, you need to define "wrong chord". If it should be major and it's playing minor, obviously that's a wrong chord. But, if you wanted a maj9th and it's plays a maj7th or a maj6th that's not a wrong chord. That's the virtual band deciding by using it's internal AI to play the maj6th and not the 9th. Or, to add an 11th or whatever if it's a jazz style. There are controls to help with that. Simplify the bass, pedal bass, jazz down or up, etc. Those are not wrong chords, those are you hiring the wrong players for your session! Try some different RT's. Just like real life, hence the name Band in a Box. Feed the guitarist more pizza and beer and you'll get different changes...

The problem with Real Tracks involving chording instruments is the RT file sizes are limited. The players will record all the basic major and minor chords with some extensions in three keys then the program can handle transpositions. Great, but which inversions? There is no way a piano RT can have 4 different two handed inversions of all those chords. Maybe the recorded maj7th just sucks in your key so it uses a 6th or dominant 7th. Look at all the different ways to play chords on a guitar too. Sometimes just changing the key can make the difference.

To record all those combinations would make the RT huge so they have to make compromises and use digital tricks to make it sound good. Most of the time it works well but sometimes it just doesn't. Just like hiring a real band to record your stuff for you. You have an idea in your head but the players just can't quite get it right. Sometimes it's you being too demanding and sometimes it's them.

Midi doesn't have those limitations. You can edit a midi file to play EXACTLY what notes in any instrument track. But midi loses a lot of that live ambience and so it goes, round and round and...

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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
We looked into that issue, and found an instance several instances where an Ebm chord would get played as a Ebmajor. (fixed haha!)

This just affects that RealTracks #372
The fix will appear in the next patch, but if you want to get the fix now, download these tw files to your c:\BB folder

ST2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpwqrzkmws5f6jk/RAcG02.ST2?dl=0
XT2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0o83a4727fk21g7/RAcG02.XT2?dl=0


There are 5 million bars in the 2,500 hours of RealTracks, so it's not surprising that we found 2 bars that had wrong chords. It's easy to fix them if someone spots an issue. Thanks for reporting it


Thanks Peter. Just for the record I have had it happen several times in the past, but I have not bothered to report it before. This time was the camel haha!

From now on when it happens I will follow the same process and send it in!

Cheers
PS: And thx for the links smile

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There are 5 million bars in the 2,500 RealTracks


Wow! That is an incredible number. It really puts the 4 or 5 instances of mis-mapped chords that I've found into perspective!

Thank you for the quick fix, Peter smile

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Pax,
And the nice thing is that it gets fixed for everyone when you send it in and we fix it.

BowlesJ
Good idea. About the in house chord tool. We have a number of in house tools, so hopefully can add that one too.


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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
We have a number of in house tools...


Yes, I've noticed that over the years but the staff is much better now.

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself this was too perfect.

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Pax,
And the nice thing is that it gets fixed for everyone when you send it in and we fix it.


gotcha! cool

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