I just bought 2017Everything and the forte pack. I love all these realtrax but none of the midi styles work. I seem only to able to use half a biab. Apart from drums the tracks are silent but the meters move. I had biab years ago so know how to put in chords so its not that. I trid changing a couple to realtrax and they play ok so its not that. Hubby checked for me and creative audigy sound card has midi set to full volume so its not that either. It asked me to get coyote wavetable so i got it from Help but still no midi sounds. Disappointed it won't work straight out of the box. What should i look for next? K.I.S.S please! If I need to spend even more money i might have to call it quits and ask for a refund.
Music Student, Thank you for this info.I could not get it to work either.Question... the dialog box for my Coyote WT only shows pianos. I guess i just need to dive into this,its all too new to me. It would be great if PG would come up with a tutorial from start to finish on building a song using real tracks and show how to add some of this midi or hi-q patches for extra instruments or sounds or other embellishments.Don't get me wrong...real tracks are awesome but sometimes I just want to sweeten it up.
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Maybe try right clicking around a bit on that synth window. You should be able to change sounds for each MIDI channel. Or maybe your windows version has an extremely limited sound set (?) I suppose it is possible but not likely (WT uses the Windows sound set).
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First off-Happy New Year. 2017 here I come. Thank you for all the help. I have got forte to work now. Leastways it dounds way better than before.I dont know how to do the screen photo for here so cant show it. But i have Sfirzando with my Ultra. I get that its for some special midi sounds but cant work out how I'd toggle (?) from one to the other without jessing up the forte. WendyM
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If in BiaB this may be complicated. In RB you can easily assign a given track to a new 'Port'. This Port can hold a new synth or a new instance of the same synth used elsewhere.
For what it's worth, sForzando is not just for the included "special midi sounds". You can add additional sounds to it.
To explain: Tracks get routed to ports. These Ports contain an output device (either a softsynth as you mention or a physical MIDI output that could connect to any hardware device/synth). BiaB (I think) has very limited MIDI ports. RB has 32.
In turn, the MIDI channel for the given port can further filter on down to other selections. MIDI is pretty flexible once you get how the signal flow works.
To post a screen shot: Save it on your computer, make sure to click the Reply button in the forum (and not use the Quick Reply below) .. then there is a File Manager option to upload your screen shot.
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thank you rharv. It doesnt mean a lot to me at the moment but im going t re-read it and hopfully make sense for the future. Going to full reply doesnt give me the file manager, as you have. Post options are only Add this thread to my watched topics and Add my signature to this post. Nothing after that. Phew. Into BB only a few days now and already im learning. WendyM
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Sorry I cant find any way of direct posting of a picture. File manager is not on my Reply page. So I'm using my Box.net account. The picture shows how it is at the momwent.I have got Forte working and it sounds good. How do I now add sforzando to it WITHOUT jessing up the forte please. I hope you can help. Its driving me bonkers. WendyM https://app.box.com/s/ujsxtgb1gd2ly5fpdn3zknh2nw9oeqnl
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In BiaB you may be stuck where you are without invoking a third part rerouting option like LoopBe or similar. A member here wrote one also.
In RB it's pretty easy. Right-Click a track and route the track to a different Softsynth 'Port' and assign another synth to that Port.
Right-Click a MIDI track Click Port Select any port between 17-31 RB prompts you to load a synth for it.
Im using BB. Havent looked at RB yet. I intended to do all my arranging such as it is in BB so I want that to work. Question. If its that easy to do in RB,and PG invented them both,WHY cant you do it in BB? WendyM
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Well, true, 'PGMusic' produced both programs, but they are two different programs with a long history, written by two different people that got connected later and started merging ideas. PG (Peter Gannon) I believe is the original author for BiaB, but Jeff Yankauer is for PT (Powertracks) which eventually morphed into RB.
BiaB is and always has been a quick great arrangement/accompaniment tool. RB used to be a multi-track DAW (PT) but has evolved and now incorporates BiaB features in a more DAW like setting.
In some ways RB is better, one of them being routing options for MIDI and Audio. Another is RB has more tracks to work with (48 vs 8). And they can be Audio or MIDI, doesn't matter.
I'm probably different than most; I was a long time PT user before RB came out. RB is what made me take the time to see what BiaB could really do; it is faster at some things. I had owned it but not used it much.
TBH, once RB came out, I found it fit my workflow very well and I started looking closer at the BiaB features. Some people start the other way; they use BiaB most first. Since I was already a PT user I was drawn to RB a LOT, and BiaB use was pretty sparse, until I caught on to the things it does do better.
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For Sforzando, just install it and make note of where it put the 32-bit VST. Then open the VST/VSTi screen and add it to your list. Once you've done that, it is now available for BIAB to use it with Super MIDI tracks. If you want to use it separately, then just select the track under the plugins tab of the mixer and select Sforzando (which should now show up in the list). However, it won't respond to whatever instrument was set on the track (since it's not General MIDI compliant). You have to select an instrument and make sure it is mapped to the correct MIDI channel for it to work. Once you do that, you can save that setting if you ever want to easily bring it back up.
But don't use SFZ as your default MIDI synth, as that is not its purpose. It is best use to replace individual instruments on a track by track basis. Keep the Coyote synth as your default synth (or TTS-1 or Coyote Forte should you choose to go that route later), and then use SFZ on a track by track basis. You will get several instrument selections from PGMusic to use, but you can also use freely downloaded SFZ or SF2 (soundfont) sounds.
Again, you have to load the instrument you want and map it to the channel you want. If you select Options, there is a channels tab that tells you which tracks use which channels. I'd write that down and keep it at your desk. In the mixer, you can also rename the track to better reflect the new instrument you loaded.
I'm not at my music computer right now, so I can't post any pictures on how to do that, but if Noel or Trevor don't beat me to it, I'll try to remember to do so this evening.
John
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Im using BB. Havent looked at RB yet. I intended to do all my arranging such as it is in BB so I want that to work. Question. If its that easy to do in RB,and PG invented them both,WHY cant you do it in BB? WendyM
While the 2 programs are by the same company and work together and in similar fashion, they really do have 2 very unique purposes. Use them for their strengths to work efficiently.
Kinda like tools... while you can use a pair of lineman's pliers as a hammer to drive a nail, you get the job done more efficiently using a hammer. But that doesn't mean you can't drive a nail with the pliers, it's just easier to use a hammer, especially if you're driving a lot of nails.
I arrange my songs in BB.... getting the structure right... verses, chorus, bridge, intro, ending, tempo, key..... etc....
RB and other DAW's give you a much better environment to do editing and mixing. Cut, copy, paste, delete, are all much easier to accomplish in a DAW than in BB. Besides, you are limited to a small number (6) tracks in BB whereas in RB and other DAW's that number is much higher depending on the particular DAW. Some allow in excess of 200 tracks.
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