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Hi fellow music makers,
Having now retired and having time on my hands I wish to have a go at creating music.
I just went to buy my first ever BIAB from PG Music website after hours of research on the internet regarding its suitability for someone of my maturing years.
However, If I wish the audiophile version then I must must wait for the delivery from USA to reach me here in Eastern Europe and then maybe have to pay a tax, (which is an unknown cost to me)
I can however download the ''everything Pak'and start ''playing'' straight away, like a child wishing to play with his presents on Christmas Eve I suppose.
I would like to know from those who are better aquainted with the programme, can I make decent music without 'wav' files and what other limitations I may incur not using wav files.
Any other pros and cons to using wav files would be appreciated.
Can I upgrade later?
Many Thanks in advance for your well intended advice.
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Hi Yorkshireknight,
Where are you from? I'm also from Eastern Europe. I Dealer PG Music for the Czech Republic.
Karel Jacko alias Don Carlos - Czech Republic Dealer PG Music, Inc - +420 604 111 102, +420 602 561 567 mobil - Band Leader Groups Jazz za Bukem and Hot Jazz Sutrs; - BIAB 2020 Win10; BIAB 2019 MAC; - Roland GK-3 Divided Pickup (Guitar and Bass); Roland GR-20 Guitar Synth; - MOTU UltraLite mk3 (Firewire); Fishman Tripleplay - MacBookPro 13 with touchbar 2018, Wiki BIAB czech support page wiki.zabukem.eu
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- Yes, You can I upgrade later? Real Tracks
- Yes You do not need the WAV sounds of the routine work, if you do not want to directly generate publishable recordings on CD
Karel
Karel Jacko alias Don Carlos - Czech Republic Dealer PG Music, Inc - +420 604 111 102, +420 602 561 567 mobil - Band Leader Groups Jazz za Bukem and Hot Jazz Sutrs; - BIAB 2020 Win10; BIAB 2019 MAC; - Roland GK-3 Divided Pickup (Guitar and Bass); Roland GR-20 Guitar Synth; - MOTU UltraLite mk3 (Firewire); Fishman Tripleplay - MacBookPro 13 with touchbar 2018, Wiki BIAB czech support page wiki.zabukem.eu
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If you are just using it for your personal use, I think you will find the non-audiophile version works just fine, and in general, most folks won't be able to tell the difference unless doing a side-by-side comparison.
If you are looking to produce music for sale, you may want the audiophile (maybe sales can offset the cost of the tax); however, even then lots of folks do just fine with the regular version.
Definitely get either the UltraPlusPak or the EverythingPak, as well as any other add-ons being offered.
Unfortunately, you just missed the sale for BIAB2017, so all prices are back to full prices. There is a possibility of a mid-year sale when the new Mac version comes out, but no guarantees, in which case the next sale will probably be December 2017.
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I was just about to link to that. Nothing has changed since I wrote it, to my knowledge.
Thanks Noel.
And Yorkshireknight, welcome to the forum.
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Many thanks for all your replies. Your input has helped me make my descision and I am now the proud owner of the ultra plus pak!!
I expect I will be using this forum a lot to pick the brains of you Muzzo vets. Looking at the programme makes my head explode, by the way it took about 17 hours to download all the files!!
Thanks to Noel and Matt for the link whcih also helped and for your info Jacko, I am english living in Bulgaria.
While I am here replying to you all, I wish to find a good tutorial on how to make 6/8 time with BIAB/RB
I have written a song and the beat is 6/8 time and my search across youtube has not yet revealed any tutorial that I can understand.
This is typical me of starting at the deep end as it were. I am also busy writing a country song in 4/4 time to help me get into BIAB more gently.
Once again many thanks for your replies and to point me to the correct thread to ask the questin about 6/8 time.
Last edited by Yorkshireknight; 01/30/17 09:29 PM.
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Congratulations! The UltraPlus Pak is one of the most popular on the forums from what I can tell. That was what I regularly purchased and upgraded over the years.
In relation to 6/8 time, you would be better to learn using Realband before embarking on that journey. I personally encourage you to work on your 4/4 Country song as a starting place. You'll learn a lot more about how the software works doing this. Once you've done that, then visit 6/8 in Realband (RB is much better at working with the less common time signatures). In case you aren't aware of this, Realband is sold with BIAB so you will already have it.
Good luck with your journey!
Noel
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Welcome Yorkshireknight
You have already received expert advice and I too would encourage you to learn the basics before delving too deep just yet. Most of the program functions are intuitive and you shouldn't have too many issues. If you do, there is a fantastic forum of skills available right here. You're in the right place.
Welcome aboard.
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Thanks Noel & Trev, I agree with your advice and have this morning started work on my country style number.
I think I am going to approach the learning curve by finding the solutions to my problems as I go along with the song.
I have already found a problem but I think this thread/post is not the place to ask. so I shall take my leave and pose the question on the correct forum.
Once again thank you for yoour help and encouragement.
Paul
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Yes, go to the BIAB forum and we can discuss 6/8.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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