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I know, this is not a TV forum, and perhaps this is not the place to ask, but I will anyway. Might be some who can shed some light for me.
We have a TV with several source. Some of these sources have their own volumn control, the TV has a Volumn control, etc. My problems are related to volumn on the output from TV.
1) the volumn on the TV seems to jump from one number so 5 is to low and 6 is too loud.
2) the volumn for different sources is different, so that when we switch from one source to an other we must remember to turn down the volumn and then adjust it back up or sometime we get blown away with too much volumn.
3) the volumn on the commercials for many stations is too loud
4) the volumn from channel to channel is not consistent so that an adjustment must be made when stitcing stations.
I would think that it may be possible to put some type of filter or device to do some clean up on this issue.
Any ideas or suggestions?
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The line out is not 'line level', which IMO should be the standard.
I run all of my source outputs into a surround sound amp that helps compensate for this. The amp remembers settings for each input in use.
Then the TV can be left alone for volume and the surround amp is used for volume adjustment.
It does seem to help level out the sources a little, but I know exactly the problem you are talking about... and it should be a 'standard' getting developed.
I try to look in the specs on any TV I purchase to see if I can determine the output of the audio out jack,s but often it is not easy to find
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Commercials are double-squashed via compression techniques in order to make 'em the loudest thing on the dial. Some channels overdo that more than others, just to make it worse.
It might be a bit on the expensive side, but a Line Level Audio Compressor (hardware) inserted in the chain and set up as a soft knee limiter may be able to help you iron out level changes like these.
But before going to that extreme, check out your possible Audio Outputs on that set, you may just have other output options, such as a fixed Line Level.
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The problem is the broadcast source, not anything in your house. Whether it's satellite or cable they both get their programming from various broadcasters and they set the volume. Same thing with that very annoying audio/picture sync issue with a lot of HD programs. Drives me nuts sometimes but without spending several hundred on a hardware audio delay device, nothing can be done about it and believe me I've tried.
Last year I finally got a Directv DVR and now I pause everything and go do something else for about 10 minutes and then come back and start watching the show. Once it has some lead time you can fast forward through the commercials in 30 second increments. They won't let you just skip them but the fast forward is quick and works great. It's a dual tuner HD one so even when I'm skipping through a live show, I can record another one so when I'm ready to watch it, I skip through those commercials too. Best TV gadget I ever got, highly recommended.
Too bad what happened to Billy Mays but I sure was getting sick of him. No more and I get to skip the Shamwow guy and all the others too. And, don't even get me started about how tired I am about good ole "Smilin' Bob". He makes me want to change my name. Anybody outside the US who doesn't know who I'm talking about, trust me you don't want to know.
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"The problem is the broadcast source, not anything in your house" I don't think this is true, after reading his post. To me it sounds like the TV volume control is 'preamping' the line out signal. If the TV is left up or down, next time that input is selected can be an alarming experience. I've had TV's that do that, and others that don't I prefer the latter.. ..and again, I think it should be a standard spec to have it NOT controlled by the TV speaker volume. That said, there are many times I think that DVR you mentioned would be a great investment, but every time I have $$ I find something else I 'gotta have'.  Mac's advice is the hardware solution Original Poster was looking for..
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Check out this site. Would be well worth it if it works. Later, Ray http://www.smarthome.com/7848T/TV-Volume-Regulator-VR-1/p.aspx
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That device looks like it is a very cost-effective solution to the problem, Ray!
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My only concernwith this (now that I think about it) is that the dynamics of some inputs will be affected, possibly quite a bit.
It's a fix, but with caveats.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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My Dad has hearing aids in both ears with a remote control in his pocket. He presses a mute button during commercials. LOL
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I have mute buttons, both, on my satellit box and the tv. I've learned to tell when commercials are going to come on. I simply press the mute button and go iron my work clothes or check stuff on my computer. I've also learned that the commercials last approximately 8 to 9 minutes. So I just look at my watch when I leave and come back when that time is up.
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Iron your work clothes! LOL
For the first ten years I worked in lumber and mining camps. Put your clothes on a hook and hoisted them up in the dry where it was 100 degrees in the rafters. Clothes were stiff as a board. When they wore out after a few years you bought new ones.
The the Fire Department drycleaned the dress uni, and we washed the station gear in the big commercial units, wash and wear no wrinkles.
I think I had an iron in the 60s. I always found some cute girl to bail me out...and iron my 2 dress shirts. The tie died ones needed no ironing, LOL.
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My only concernwith this (now that I think about it) is that the dynamics of some inputs will be affected, possibly quite a bit.
It's a fix, but with caveats.
Dynamice and TV Audio? 'nuther oxymoron, the audio is already squashed anyway.
Other sources shouldn't be pushing those limits.
I wouldn't be all that concerned with this issue, presumably the little box is "just" doing some soft knee limiting or the like anyway. It may be doing some active gain changing, dunno.
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Many of the newer TVs have a settings feature which includes a form of auto leveling, it's purpose is to level out the output volume from one channel to the other and also is quite handy for commercials.
I normally buy Phillips branded electronics, and the last few Tvs have had this feature.
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My only concernwith this (now that I think about it) is that the dynamics of some inputs will be affected, possibly quite a bit.
It's a fix, but with caveats.
Dynamice and TV Audio? 'nuther oxymoron, the audio is already squashed anyway.
Other sources shouldn't be pushing those limits.
I wouldn't be all that concerned with this issue, presumably the little box is "just" doing some soft knee limiting or the like anyway. It may be doing some active gain changing, dunno.
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The original poster mentioned various inputs
I was thinking of the effect this may have on DVD audio (for example)
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Just place the leveling device between the TV audio output and the amp input, leave the other things connected straight to the amp.
Unless I'm missing something, that should work.
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We have this issue with our Samsung TV. DVD component video/audio is basically maxed on output into the TV, the HDTV tuner has it's own output volume control, the kids PS2 has an even different level.
Since we don't jump back and forth between sources, it's not a big deal - a hassle a couple times a week. But there is a volume control for the TV and we use it.
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