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How do I force the bass to play a D on ^C/D chord #417295 06/11/17 05:50 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA bloc-head OP Expert
OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	How do I force the bass to play a D on ^C/D chord... the song is a simple 4/4, even16s progression in the key of G. G, ^Bm / C, ^G / G, ^Bm / C, ^C/D the bass just wants to play a C on the last chord... Last edited by bloc-head; 06/11/17 07:59 AM. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417297 06/11/17 06:09 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	I also tried to type D11, but it changes what I type to D4sus Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417298 06/11/17 06:37 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Sure it wasn't D9sus? Anyway, that's an option you can select in recent versions of BIAB. Go into Display Options and you'll see a checkbox, "Display C9sus as C11". There are a few other related options there. As to the first question, that sounds like it might be a bug. Reboot, return to factory settings. If it still does it, then I would suspect a problem with that particular Hold file, and it should be reported to PG Music Support. Give them the RealTrack number and name of the bass. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417301 06/11/17 07:03 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	"Sure it wasn't D9sus? Anyway, that's an option you can select in recent versions of BIAB. Go into Display Options and you'll see a checkbox, "Display C9sus as C11". There are a few other related options there." yes you're correct on the second question. I can't read... Thanks for that display tip... Last edited by bloc-head; 06/11/17 08:01 AM. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417311 06/11/17 07:52 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	when I remove the Push^, the bass plays a D, as it should. Using several different Bass realtracks, the pushed ^C/D always plays a C, and the un-pushed C/D plays a D. is this a program bug? I also noticed while playing, the hi-lighted ^pushed chords don't show up in white-over-black, while the chord is playing. Last edited by bloc-head; 06/11/17 09:27 AM. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417326 06/11/17 10:30 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	That's good work to isolate the problem. Now tell us the name and number of the bass RealTrack, and we'll try to duplicate the problem. Then we'll know if it should be reported. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord Matt Finley #417331 06/11/17 10:59 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Originally Posted By: Matt Finley That's good work to isolate the problem. Now tell us the name and number of the bass RealTrack, and we'll try to duplicate the problem. Then we'll know if it should be reported. Thanks Matt... The problem I had was using RealTrack #s: 1636, 1825, 1826, 700. Song Tempo=75 Last edited by bloc-head; 06/11/17 11:12 AM. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417332 06/11/17 11:10 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 274 UK WendyM Apprentice
WendyM Apprentice Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 274 UK	Glad its not just me. Ive been doing a gypsy jazz track and on a descending run of chords D/A, D5/A, etc always plays the Bass as D. Not a major prob for me, just very annoying. WendyM BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417339 06/11/17 12:07 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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joden Journeyman Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 794	probs a really silly question, but you do have the "Ignore slash root of slash chords - except bass" option set to off, yes?

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord joden #417341 06/11/17 12:30 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Originally Posted By: joden probs a really silly question, but you do have the "Ignore slash root of slash chords - except bass" option set to off, yes? Where do I find that option? Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417343 06/11/17 12:41 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,318 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: bloc-head Originally Posted By: joden probs a really silly question, but you do have the "Ignore slash root of slash chords - except bass" option set to off, yes? Where do I find that option? Yes, I wondered if the location of this was going to be that obvious. Song Settings (Control-N): Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2017-06-12_08-37-32.jpg (112.86 KB, 96 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417345 06/11/17 12:58 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	But even if set wrong, the bass still plays the slash root. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417351 06/11/17 02:16 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Thanks, in my case, that option was not selected. Last edited by bloc-head; 06/11/17 02:18 PM. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417372 06/11/17 04:07 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted By: bloc-head Originally Posted By: Matt Finley That's good work to isolate the problem. Now tell us the name and number of the bass RealTrack, and we'll try to duplicate the problem. Then we'll know if it should be reported. Thanks Matt... The problem I had was using RealTrack #s: 1636, 1825, 1826, 700. Song Tempo=75 Well, bad news: it's likely not a defective Hold file. These use three different holds. Report it to Support tomorrow. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417393 06/11/17 04:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,833 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,833 Australia	A workaround for the moment would be... 1. Find whatever chords you need to use to get the bass you want. It doesn't matter if the chords are different from your final progression. 2. Generate the song. 3. Freeze the bass line. 4. Change the chords to the progression you want. 5. Regenerate the song. The frozen bass track will remain unchanged. The song should now play with the chords and bass you seek. Regards, Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417398 06/11/17 05:12 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Great workaround Noel. Thanks... Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417410 06/11/17 06:36 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Conversely, the method Noel describes is often the reason people post here and say their song doesn't sound like what they wrote (and it's because they froze it earlier in development). BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord Matt Finley #417477 06/12/17 05:14 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Yes, workarounds can be problematic, and generally a pain in the neck. Still, I'm grateful for the cool tool that BIAB is... I do hope that PG Music will address this issue at some point. Thanks again Matt Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord Matt Finley #417479 06/12/17 05:58 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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1manband Apprentice Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 265 Jenks, OK	My experience is that a midi bass track will usually, if not always, play the note indicated by a slash chord but a real track bass part is very hit and miss. Whenever it's important to me for the bass to play the indicated root in a slash chord, I have to use a midi bass. Having said that, I have never experimented with the check box that Video Track points out. I will try that this week to see if selecting that forces a real track bass to play the slash chord root. Jim Psalm 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skillfully with a loud noise. BIAB 2018 build 519; Dell Inspiron N4110, Windows 10 64 bit, Intel Core i3-2350m running at 2.29 GHz, Memory: 6 GB DDR3, SDRAM 1MHz

Re: How do I force the bass to play a D on C/D chord bloc-head #417507 06/12/17 08:29 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,037 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	The tool tip would indicate it won't matter. The RealTrack would play the slash root bass anyway, unless the player who recorded it just plain didn't play that. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

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