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Thanks for sharing that link as well Bob. I'm going to give that a try later. I'll have to see what other interesting forum posts you got out there too.
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Hi Bob,only just got into your post..its a great instruction manual and very useful to improve your demos..BIAB is a brilliant innovation and for a songwriter it gives me anyway inspiration. Thanks again
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Hi All -- I realize I am picking up an old thread, but it is really close to what I am looking for. I love working with BIAB, but when I really want to create a good cover, or moreso, my own work... songs have patterns; a great bass line, or a good hook, or a particular riff or chord pattern. When working with BIAB, especially the Real Tracks, the sheer variation (which is awesome for jamming and ideas) is too much... once I hear the pattern I want, then I am a bit lost as how to say to BIAB "Yes!! Play it that way every time we do the verse..." ... and so, my songs sound like a studio jam session, not like a song with a distinct personality of it's own. Does this make sense? How can I get from where the default is to this ideal?
Thanks for any suggestions!!
David
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If you like the entire track then you can freeze that track so it will not change: right click on the instrument you want to freeze, click on track settings and freeze - OR - click on the mixer then click on the asterisk that is just right of the solo (S) icon.
If you want only a section of a track, say the chorus section, you will have to open the BiaB file in RealBand. Only RealBand will regenerate a section of a track, BiaB can only generate a complete track.
I hope this helps and good luck.
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Great article. Since this was posted back in 2017, Joanne Cooper and Herb Hartley and others have started BIAB pages on Facebook and there are many novices participating with questions, comments and song posts.
Maybe you should cross post your blog onto a FB Forum.
Charlie
Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 02/29/20 08:01 AM.
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Dear Mr. Buford...
I just gotta say this: for a instructional document, your tone is so gentle and supportive that I could imagine my Father explaining everything you wrote while placing his hand on my shoulder to reassure me.
Ever been a teacher in a classroom? Sure sounds like you have!
In particular, your description of the mixing process was VASTLY illuminating. It was a sure problem-solver, and I mean immediately.
God bless you, sir! It was incredibly kind of you to take the time to organize your thoughts on the songwriting/production process, and it was incredibly generous of you to share what you have learned with us DAW cowgirls and boys!
Truly and sincerely,
LOREN
"Music is what feelings sound like."-- borrowed from a Cakewalk Music Creator forum member, "Mamabear".
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Hi Just a name drop here who is a friend of mine John David..got his own studio Berry hill here i the UK and has recorded Robert Plant Dave Edmunds Shakin Stevens many many more actually played bass with Dave Edmunds.Has over 200 covers and is in the Welsh Hall Of Fame alongside Tom Jones Shirley Bassey the Manics etc so he is no novice Ive played him a few tracks from biab and he was impressed.Why some producers criticise this brilliant software amuses me..
frankie allen
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I have heard people who own recording studios who are total blowhards who couldn't write a song if God held their hand who criticize it, and say you have to come their studio to get a good sound. Then I listen to their stuff and it is horrible. Hmmmm. I wonder if there is a connection??? I had a music supervisor email me ten minutes ago and ask for my permission to license one of my tunes for good money. I will roll with BIAB all day long man. 
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The original topic was posted August of 2017. How interesting that it lives on and has input throughout the span of almost three years. I'm commenting because it jogged my memory that was a time I was quite struggling with work flow in music production. In the three years since, I have made progress in establishing a consistent work flow, though no where near as proficient as Bob and many of the musician/producers in this forum, way better off than if I hadn't the benefit of the great people, here and behind the scenes at PGM.
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Has anybody heard from Buford by the way? Buford, are you out there man??
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Wow - this is a fantastically written and very thorough piece Definitely have it bookmarked - well done!
Cheers,
Deryk
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