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Tyros and BIAB #429123 09/07/17 08:14 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k. devonplayer OP Journeyman
OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	I have host midi lead to Tyros 4 from PC windows 7. I am attempting to get my Tyros 4 yamaha to start BIAB play back when I place my left hand to keyboard and not using the green play button, I have investigated the Tyros midi function button at External Clock and fiddled with the buttons but no luck. Can someone please help and oldie (80years)with an idiot type sheet instruction on how to proceed. (I play on top of the Biab program for enjoyment only)

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429133 09/08/17 12:35 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Quote: I have host midi lead to Tyros 4 Are you using the USB port or a midi lead to your sound device. In the MIDI Driver window select the Midi Input Device. Click the Conductor button then Help. Conductor Window - Live Looping/Playback control As the song is playing, there are options to control the flow of playback by one of three methods: 1. Conductor window 2. QWERTY hot keys 3. MIDI keyboard

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429162 09/08/17 06:34 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	Thanks Pipeline, Midi lead is from yamaha Tyros to PC and yamaha workstation1 is at midi on. Some partial success using conductor (never noticed before) play does start with tick at midikeyboard , but speed of playback keeps varying. Such as box comes up stating normal speed, quarter speed etc and even stops. Any further tutition or information gratefully received.

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429174 09/08/17 09:40 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Example using the MIDI keyboard. Assume Charlie is a piano player who uses his MIDI keyboard with Band-in-a-Box, and would like to play his keyboard, but also use it to control Band-in-a-Box. He sets the conductor to allow his MIDI keyboard lowest notes A/Bb/B to turn the Conductor mode OFF/ON/Toggled-when held. When he turns it off (low A note), he can play his keyboard normally. If he wants to pause the song, he holds down the low B3 note as he presses the MIDI key for pause, which is G4. The song will pause, and the conductor mode turns off as he lets go of the B3 key, and he can resume his piano playing. If Charlie didn’t plan on using the MIDI keyboard for piano playing, he could leave it in conductor mode by turning it on with the A3 key. Click to reveal.. Conductor Functions with MIDI Keys and QWERTY Hot Keys Here are the various functions available using the Conductor. The MIDI key and QWERTY hot key are shown. C3 Normal Tempo Ctrl = C# Half Speed Tempo Ctrl - D3 Quarter Speed Tempo Eb3 Eighth Speed Tempo E3 Loop Section Enabled NUMPAD 1 F3 Play with last chorus looped Ctrl-NUMPAD 1 F#3 Play with middle choruses looped Ctrl-NUMPAD 2 G3 Play with middle and last choruses looped Ctrl-NUMPAD 3 G#3 Jump to last chorus (no loop) Ctrl-NUMPAD 4 A3 Jump to ending (no loop) Ctrl-NUMPAD 5 Bb3 Loop notation screen B3 Decrease Tempo by 1 Shift [ C4(48) Increase Tempo by 1 Shift ] Db4 Decrease Tempo by 5 [ D4 Increase Tempo by 5 ] Eb4 Tap tempo - (press 4 times) E4 Tap Tempo and play = (press 4 times) F4 Play F4 F#4 Stop Escape G4 Pause Backspace (or Ctrl H) G#4 Replay Ctrl A A4 MIDI Panic F12 Bb4 Previous Song Ctrl-Shift-F8 B4 Next Song Shift-F8 C5(60) This is a control character for THRU patches. When C5 is held down, pressing MIDI notes 61/62 decrease/increase the THRU patch by one, and 63-72 change THRU patches to Favorite patches. Db5 Open Notation Window Ctrl-W D5 Lead sheet Window Alt-W Eb5 Reduce All Volumes by 5 Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Q E5 Increase all Volumes by 5 Ctrl-Alt-Shift-W F5 ALL Mute/Unmute Alt-2 F#5 Bass Mute/Unmute Alt-3 G5 Piano Mute/Unmute Alt-4 G#5 Drums/Unmute Alt-5 A5 Guitar Mute/Unmute Alt-6 Bb5 Strings Mute/Unmute Alt-7 B5 Melody/Unmute Alt-9 C6 Soloist Mute/Unmute Alt-8 Db6 THRU Mute/Unmute Alt 0 F6 to D7 Jump to Sections 1-10 of the song 1-9 and 0 D6 Audio Mute Eb7 Loop Current Chorus a E7 Loop Current Section s F7 Loop Current Bar z F#7 Loop Current 4 Bars x G7 Loop current Part c Ab7 Looping ON, previous setting v A7 Looping OFF b Bb7 Go Back 1 Chorus Ctrl a B7 Go Back 1 Section Ctrl s C8 Go Back 1 Screen Ctrl d Db8 Go Back 1 Bar Ctrl z D8 Go Back 4 Bars Ctrl x Eb8 Go Back 1 Part marker Ctrl c E8 Go Ahead 1 Chorus Shift A F8 Go Ahead 1 Section Shift S F#8 Go Ahead 1 Screen Shift D G8 Go Ahead 1 Bar Shift Z Ab8 Go Ahead 4 Bars Shift X A8 Go Ahead 1 Part marker Shift C In addition, using the MIDI keyboard, you can also use the Conductor to: A1 (note#21)Turn MIDI Conductor OFF Bb1 Turn MIDI Conductor ON B1 Turn MIDI Conductor ON only as note is held down You can also get a USB Foot Switch to do this and set it to the Biab Play/Stop and Conductor hotkeys. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FS3-P-USB-Triple-Foot-Switch-Pedal-Control-Keyboard-Mouse-Plastic-SE-/122545962530?epid=1769235767 Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) BB_Conductor.jpg (87.79 KB, 101 downloads)

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429193 09/08/17 12:47 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,571 Australia	Devonplayer, Have you tried the "Options \| Preferences" setting that I've highlighted on the image below? While this setting doesn't offer the versatility that comes with Pipeline's suggestions, it might do the job for you. The option is found on the first screen that appears once Preferences is opened. My understanding of this feature, and I could be wrong because I haven't tried it, is that you press the "Generate" button first. Playback won't start immediately, though, because BIAB is waiting for a signal from either the MIDI keyboard or the QWERTY keyboard. Once that signal is received, playback begins. Hope this helps, Noel Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) external start.JPG (64.57 KB, 92 downloads) MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2026 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Tyros and BIAB Noel96 #429199 09/08/17 02:02 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Good thinkin' 99 !

Re: Tyros and BIAB Pipeline #429220 09/08/17 08:32 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k. devonplayer OP Journeyman
OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	Thanks guys for all that information, (its 7am here in UK and the boss will not let me switch on BIAB/Tyros) But those instructions must work. I can now understand why I was getting those queer deviations at speed etc. Those pedals might be a step too far, there are already two and volume pedals going to Tyros. My little old brain might not cope with 6 of them. Will let you all know how things go. Thanks again. John, Devonplayer

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429221 09/08/17 08:47 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Haven't you ever flown a helicopter !

Re: Tyros and BIAB Pipeline #429222 09/08/17 09:06 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k. devonplayer OP Journeyman
OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	Yes in microsoft flight simulator but I was younger then.

Re: Tyros and BIAB Pipeline #429226 09/08/17 10:34 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k. devonplayer OP Journeyman
OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	OK guys, some success but inconsistancies, perfect operation sometimes and then corruptions take place. Even the Tyros midi function page gets changed and BIAB takes a resetting like going back to Prefs switching off those new instructions to get any normal BIAB function like having to go back to the green arrow again. AND when working how do you get the automatic start to stop at the end of the play without using the stop button at BIAB. Perhaps I need to come back in a few days when the old grey matter as solved these problems for me. Will be in touch and thanks all for your guidance. Devonplayer

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429235 09/09/17 12:45 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	What about a small wireless keyboard on top of your Tyros, then you just hit the spacebar to play/stop.

Re: Tyros and BIAB Pipeline #429631 09/12/17 09:45 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k. devonplayer OP Journeyman
OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	Now that did work using my pc keyboard. Attaching a photograph of my BIAB/Tyros set up, the pink cross locates the pc keyboard which is not very convenient a wireless board would be handy. The set up at the photograph does work well the mouse is handy so perhaps I should be thankful for some purposes. Thanks all. yamaha tyros set up

Re: Tyros and BIAB devonplayer #429633 09/12/17 10:16 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Great setup you got there. You can try MIDI Hotkey Portable http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/Multimedia/Audio/MIDI-Hotkey-Portable.shtml Right click > Properties > Compatibility > XP > Run as Admin you can set it to the high C or low C to send the spacebar keystroke. Set other keys to any other keystroke or hotkeys. Converts signals from midi devices (e.g. epiano) to keystrokes MIDI Hotkey Portable is a handy and reliable utility designed to enable you to control your computer using a midi device like a piano. Not only can you configure the notes you can also configure the sustain pedal, play, stop, record buttons. There are many ways to use MIDI Hotkey Portable: You can use this software to make recording easier (e.g. control cubase, samplitude, using your electric piano). But also you are able to launch programs like firefox or even control the mouse. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) MidiHotKeys2.jpg (107.78 KB, 194 downloads)

Re: Tyros and BIAB Pipeline #429643 09/13/17 02:04 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k. devonplayer OP Journeyman
OP devonplayer Journeyman Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 455 devon u.k.	Thanks Pipeline, thats a new one on me. Let you all know how I get on. (Doc. around at the present time)

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