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Does it really matter if a song is liked in 100 years or even 1 year ( thinking Macarena)If people enjoy the artist or song and it makes life better isn't it doing its job ? If a song goes number one it means thousands of people parted with their hard earned money because it touched them right now, really what more do we need ?
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... And this generation's book would include Lennon and McCartney, Elton John and Bernie Taupin, Diane Warren, Brian Wilson... the hitmakers since 1950-ish. Burt Bacharach / Hal David.
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We enjoy blues, bluegrass, some country, jazz, big band, folk rock, lots of rock, Americana and mashups of them. Janice’s favorite singers are Gregg Allman, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Del McCoury and Frank Sinatra.  With Apple Music we have more of the above than we could ever listen to. And we listen a lot. Apple has “for you” playlists curated by human beings available for us that are curated by human beings, are updated frequently and are spot on regarding what we like. We constantly discover artists that are new to us. And I could care less if others folks and other generations don’t like our choices and listen to different music. Why sweat it. Just turn on your music. Bud
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I don't personally believe classical music is on life support at all. As a younger person myself, I quite enjoy listening to classical ( and I also attend the Opera; over the next year I will be going to three of them ). There are just as many people who prefer the classics to the Top 40 stuff of today. There is so much beauty in classical music that I can't foresee it dying off anytime soon.
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I hope you are right, Ember, because it is such beautiful music that should not be allowed to die.
I worry that it will. The only place I hear it now is in church. Orchestras are struggling and the young just aren’t exposed to it any more. Great art endures but it must be given a chance.
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As long good players keep doing things like this with the Great American Songbook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhECm_uiqyQ , It keeps me interested. (for the jazz lovers)
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First, this is indeed an interesting rendition of a 40 year old song that was uploaded to youtube almost 3 years ago and has 96 views and five likes - wait make that 6 since I just clicked it. So to answer the Subject question - Yes.
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... And this generation's book would include Lennon and McCartney, Elton John and Bernie Taupin, Diane Warren, Brian Wilson... the hitmakers since 1950-ish. Burt Bacharach / Hal David. They were in there too. Walk On By and I Say A Little Prayer were masterpieces.
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Does it really matter if a song is liked in 100 years or even 1 year ( thinking Macarena)If people enjoy the artist or song and it makes life better isn't it doing its job ? If a song goes number one it means thousands of people parted with their hard earned money because it touched them right now, really what more do we need ? I don't know if that was the point. Somebody somewhere liked Little Black Egg, too. In general the thread is along the lines of the fact that the quality writing is going away. Does it take a lot of skill to write the vulgar, racist, sexist crap that is permeating the world these days? With every other word things that would come up here as asterisks if I tried to type them in? THAT is more the topic.
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Does it really matter if a song is liked in 100 years or even 1 year ( thinking Macarena)If people enjoy the artist or song and it makes life better isn't it doing its job ? If a song goes number one it means thousands of people parted with their hard earned money because it touched them right now, really what more do we need ? Exactly!
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Some music will live forever.
Think:
- Bach
- Tchaikovsky
- Mozart
- Schubert
and also think
- Lennon & McCartney
- Elton John
- Bacharach & David
- Antonio Carlos Jobim
and others.
I predict that some of that music will still be heard centuries from now.
Good music never dies.
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I'm a little late to the party, and with a gig today, I don't have time to read all the posts, so if I'm just repeating, please forgive me.
What is good music?
That can be looked at two ways.
1) Good music is what you like to listen to, whether it's rap or opera or anything else
2) Good music is complex music that follows the rules set by the theory that originates the music.
To me the best music is symphonic, but not all. Mozart bores me, although I recognize his genius and that he pushed music forward according to the MAYA principle (Most Advanced Yet Accessible). My tastes start in the Romantic era with Beethovan's 3rd and I especially like the Eastern Europeans like Dvorak, Tchaikovsky, Suk, Shostakovitch, etc. and it goes to the contemporary. But it has to appeal to my personal tastes. I like dark and brooding more than light and happy.
I consider it the best because I like it and it is very complex according to the rules of western music theory.
But I like Cole Porter, Duke Ellington, Stan Kenton, Woody Herman, Benny Goodman, and a lot of the swing people, as well as more modern jazz from Thelonius Monk to Stan Getz to Scott Hamilton and others.
I also like rock in genre of Zeppelin, Queen, Deep Purple, Vanilla Fudge, King Crimson, and so on.
But my tastes aren't limited to the complex either, I love Muddy Waters, Bobby Bland, much top 40 especially from 1955 to the beginning of the Rap/EDM era. But still there is good music being written, played and recorded.
What about Salsa, Brazilian, Cabo Verde, Reggae, Klezmer, and so on?
Just because I don't embrace much Rap/EDM doesn't mean it's bad. When I was young, I listened to a lot of music that bores me now. But because I grew up with it, to hear it every once in a while is like visiting an old friend.
My father loved big band jazz and when I started gigging rock, the old guys used to say that good music is dying. Now the old guys of the rock era are saying the same thing.
And as a musician who studied classical in school and also played in the jazz band (they called it stage band because jazz still wasn't an accepted term in school) I understood the big band stuff and liked my father's music. I could play his records and follow with mine. Different kinds of good music.
My generation started with 3 chord rock, and the jazz guys were right, but went into much more involved music like that from the Moody Blues, later Beatles, Jethro Tull, later Beach Boys, and so on. Every bit as complex as the Big Band music was, but with a different expression.
The complexity of music ebbs and flows.
So is good music dying? It might be in an ebb right now, but I'm certain it isn't dying.
If I'm being redundant and not well composed, please excuse, I have an early gig today and am running out of time.
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What concerns me is the pervasive mundane sameness of modern music.
My first 45 was Born Too Late by the Poni Tails. As I got a little older, I was hip to Elvis and the Beach Boys and the Beatles, but I also liked folk (Kingston Trio, P,P & M) and listened to a jazz radio station. My parents would put Broadway musicals and classical music on the HiFi, and I was taken to classical concerts. I even got into Indian ragas in college (!).
If young people today aren’t exposed to the rich variety of good music, then I’m afraid it will die.
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If young people today aren’t exposed to the rich variety of good music, then I’m afraid it will die. Exactly. When I was much younger my brothers and I were exposed to all genres of music. Consequently we all like a wide variety of music. My kids were exposed to all genres also and they like a wide variety. We have a rule here that whomever is driving controls the radio. My wife plays modern country and I play either jazz or classical. We all like all kinds of music, except my wife does not like scat! It really saddens me that music is one of the first things schools cut during budget problems. I wish they would put more emphasis on music and the arts and less on sports. YMMV.
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It really saddens me that music is one of the first things schools cut during budget problems. I wish they would put more emphasis on music and the arts and less on sports. YMMV.
There are organizations you can join to help change this. For instance NASMD (supportMusic.com) which has recently become NAMMFoundation. My parents have been involved for years, and if I may be so bold - https://www.nammfoundation.org/get-involved
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Hmmmmmmmmm.... My daughter asked me to take her to see Imagine Dragons one time. I thought they were awesome. In return, I asked her to go see U2 with me. I think she thought they were "ok." She also likes Train and One Republic. I listened to them and agreed they were great. Other stuff she likes I am not too crazy about but we both agree that Five For Fighting is awesome. I can't say that I can point out anyone in the last 30 years who is on the same par with McCartney, though. Have we had a McCartney in the last 30 or 40 years? Maybe we have and I missed it. On playing: one of my fondest and funniest memories is of playing a talent show in high school. Aerosmith was really big back then. A lot of people did Aerosmith and metal covers and got booed off the stage by the Metal Heads in the bleachers of the gym. I was terrified when I got up there with my fifty dollar acoustic, pulled a mic up to it, and said "This is by Chet Atkins." (I had very big glasses and was the school nerd x 1000.) About 20 seconds in, the Metal Heads were on their feet cheering (and stoned out of their minds, I think) but lo and behold, I won. There will always be something to say for playing notes. That will never go out of style, I don't think. That is what I learned that day. The rest of musical taste is a mystery to me. I just know I love playing.
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