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I too have sometimes found RealBand a little flaky. It will sometimes crash unexpectedly but I have never used it in a gig situation. I am slightly in awe of the complex setups described here. I have sometimes used my large format iPad Pro for gigs with backing tracks. I have the music display app forScore which means I have words and music on display. Also good as I don’t need music stand light since I am using an iPad. With forScore you can associate any file with a wave or mp3. This means you have the music up and simply click controls to start playback. You control the output level from theiPad too and it will even turn pages back and forward for you at the right place in the audio track which is cool. Saves having to take huge files of music around as you can put all your music on the iPad. I plug the output of the iPad into my keyboard which then supplies it to my mixer. All nice and simple which suits me!
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You seem familiar. This would be awesome. I have always prefered dedicated hardware. Its just that I headed down the RB trail.Do you think it would be easy or real tedious to transfer all the songs. Too bad it can't read *.seq files.
BTW my music computer is only used for RB, BIAB, PT, and qlite. Never goes on the internet.
Last edited by silvertones; 11/15/17 05:30 AM.
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Guitarhacker I will apologize to you as i don't no you. I have been a LONG time Forum contributer, Beta tester and all round techno crazy guy. To start off a post with a condescending statement pissed me off pure and simple.
Ive answered those questions ad nauseum for nubes and was never condescending.
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Awesome box. I downloaded the manual. Getting 4000 tracks in it would be a challenge. At 66 I can't remember 300 songs and counting so lyrics and chords are needed for reference. Not dependent on them but nice to be able to glance.Weve all had the problem of stepping up to sing a song weve done a thousand times and cant remember the first line.
Relistically I need to stay with RB to compose and Power Tracks to play back.
PS I still love PGMUSIC and their products.
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Guitarhacker I will apologize to you as i don't no you. I have been a LONG time Forum contributer, Beta tester and all round techno crazy guy. To start off a post with a condescending statement pissed me off pure and simple.
Ive answered those questions ad nauseum for nubes and was never condescending. accepted.... and yeah I get it. I'm a bit quick on the trigger at times. We had just had a similar kind of thread. No problem.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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The above thread demonstrates why this is a cool place to hang out (to me).
'Friends' can say things to each other here, and it does not end up turning into your typical forum/Fark thread.
Makes me stick around still.
People are honestly just trying to help each other.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Gig Friday went great. Not a hickup.Even used RB version 8.
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Just an observation. I don't do a lot of gigs but I have been using RealBand for gigs for a long time and I have never really had any problem, except for one quirk of the Jukebox. How I would normally set up the computer would be to have folders labeled as set 1, set 2 etc. and I would create a Jukebox file for each set. The Jukebox file would reside in each set folder. If I created my sets and jukebox files on my main studio computer and transferred to my laptop for gigging, then the Jukebox would crash on the laptop. I discovered that the Jukebox program writes a file, with a JUK extension, in the RealBand folder and if that file was there from a previous gig, then RealBand would crash when I tried to load my new Jukebox file in my Set folder. If I deleted the old file with the .JUK extension in the RealBand folder then my new Jukebox files in my set folders would load no problem. Ever since I figured this out I have had no problems. I don't know why this file is written into the Realband folder but I hope this helps. Perhaps PG Music can answer this.
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All seems well. I've done 3 gigs without issues. I have been making sure to delete all songs from the Jukebox before closing.
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Hi John, great to see you again and I still have those files you sent me.
Pipeline and Guitarhacker your comments are understandable but you don't know who Silvertones is. He's a total pro level user just like you guys are and knows as much about these programs as anybody. I don't know if the forum goes back that far but try to find his posts about performing live with Power Tracks about 4 years ago. After a lot of trial and error he created one helluva live setup because he wanted total multitrack control over each instrument.
Bob
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I've been using an iPod touch with all my backing tracks stored onto it since I bought one and it's been working for me so far. I do not have worry about my Mac crashing or having to take 5 minutes just to find the next track I want to play. I also use backing tracks that were either given to me or came included with sheet music I bought, and I sometimes make my own backing tracks when I need to have my parts to be precisely laid out note for note.
P.S. I don't own a PC so I can't use RealBand and PG Music has no intention of including RealBand for Mac even though the vast majority of audio productions is done on a Mac. My school has a production lab that only uses Macs.
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Computer: Macbook Pro, 16 inch 2021
DAWs: Pro Tools, Logic, and Maschine
plays drums, percussion, bass, steel pan, keyboard,
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Hey Bob,
Good to hear from you as well. You still gigging?
I've since dumped all the analog mixers and drive rack stuff. Now using a 16x4 digital stage box. Mixer on my computer and a tablet.
Going to upgrade lights as well to led.
Sure glad that in music school it was required to intern for s moving company. At 66 loading in/out and setup/tear down is tough duty but it's still worth it.
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Gigging, oh yeah. You know how it is with us warhorses, I just can't say no. I have 5 coming up for December but only one is a jazz gig. Those have dried up but I'm back to my classic rock roots doing Santana, Joe Cocker, the Doors, SRV, Stevie Wonder, etc. Lots of keyboard on that stuff.
You're back now so lets see a new pic of you and your toys.
Bob
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Awesome man.
Can't say no either.
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I don't know if this is helpful to you, but this is the way I do it. I create the songs in BB. If I need to tweak them, I can do it with Notation and Piano Roll in BB if the instrument is midi. If it is RT or I need to add a part of my own, I can go to RB.
When I have the song done, I save it to an SD card that I use in my Jam Man looper. One card holds at least two sets. The looper is always at my feet so it is easy to work with. My sets are pretty well-planned. I keep a list of the locations of the loops in case I want to make a change. The Jam Man has a stereo out if you want to run stereo live (I don't).
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Hey Bob,
Good to hear from you as well. You still gigging?
I've since dumped all the analog mixers and drive rack stuff. Now using a 16x4 digital stage box. Mixer on my computer and a tablet.
Going to upgrade lights as well to led.
Sure glad that in music school it was required to intern for s moving company. At 66 loading in/out and setup/tear down is tough duty but it's still worth it. Glad to hear you have your gigging issues worked out. I'm also interested in learning more of your live stage setup. "I usually use abt 10 tracks in RB. They are all assigned to one of 8 audio outs of my interface to one of 8 channels of my digital stage box. Mixer is software on the computer and my sound persons tablet. They mix me from FOH. I sing and play bass live. One RB track goes to the computers headphone output to provide chord data for my harmonizer.Another RB track is midi data that goes, via a virtual midi cable to QLITE controller program which is for lighting. I built a USB to DMX adapter box to drive my lighting dimmer packs." If you don't mind my asking, which digital stage box are you using and how are you routing your setup? Which software are you mixing with on the computer and tablet? Are you completely wireless or using ethernet? Thanks for your time.
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I Build the songs in RealBand.I don't use the so called "BB" tracks. Just plain tracks. My focus is having a consistent sound like a Real Band regardless of the song. I use an ESI Gigaport HD audio interface.It is 8 outputs, no inputs.
I assign tracks like this.
1. Drums
2. Kick
3. solos
4. horns
5. acoustic guitars
6. electric guitars
7. Piano
8. Organ
These 8 outs go to 8 ins on my Behringer xr16 mixer. The xr16 is just a box with 16 inputs, 4 aux outs and 2 main outs. It is controlled by software that connects via wifi.
The headphone out of the computer provides chords to my harmonizer. Not heard
One channel of the mixer is main vocals and two othere channels are harmony vocals.
I also use another track in RB with note data that, using a virtual midi cable, connects to QLite controller which is lighting software.I built a box that converts the lighting cues from usb to DMX512.
The mixer main outs go to my 3000 watt biamped pa. I use in ears out of the mixer.
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BTW the juke box in RB crashed the program again. I bought PT2017 and its been perfect. I would recommend not using RB to play out if your setup is at al complex.
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