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What are the current recommendations for softsynths to use with BIAB under 64-bit Windows? I still have an Edirol SD-90, but realize that I won't be able to use it with Windows 10. Moreover, modern processors are fast enough that there's no need for an outboard hardware synth module.
I used Bandstand once upon a time, but that has also been discontinued.
I also realize that there is much less need for a separate synth with RealTracks; nevertheless, RealTracks doesn't cover everything.
So what is the current recommendation?
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Why can't you use it with Win 10?? I'm using a MUCH OLDER SC-8850 (and a lot of other stuff with NO USB plugs at all XV-5080, Alesis QS8, QSR, Nanosynth, ...)
You MIGHT not be able to use it OVER USB (but with a little hacking you might be able to - you might want to do some "googling" on it) BUT it still works over 5-pin DIN MIDI.
That aside - if you only want a GM compliant plugin then it's fairly limited: TTS-1, Coyote Forte, the IMO the pricy ($125) Roland Sound Canvas VA, and some others that require a little effort to make "GM-like" (like IK SampleTank 2 with Omnisynth add-in, I'm probably forgetting a few but there really aren't that many that you install and use like a GM module VSTi)
If you don't mind assigning your instruments by picking the patches manually ANY VSTi softsynth: Kontakt, Rapture Pro or Dimension Pro, Sample Tank 3 (or 2) , Garritan, UVI, Xpand!2, or any SFZ, ...
Good Luck
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Andrew, I had an SD-80 for years. Same MIDI engine as the SD-90, without the audio. As I recall looking at the Roland drivers site some years back, it worked on Windows 7. I also think Roland said more recently that Windows 10 wasn't supported. However - that does not mean it won't work using Windows 7 driver compatibility. This is similar to users of firewire devices: you install Windows 7, get the drivers working, save them to another storage place, then update to Windows 10.
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Hi ryclark Thanks for you kind words above . However you should be aware that I have a slight problem at the moment when using it for midi drums on the 4 substyle type styles, watch my thread below for updates. As I say there, this wont effect you if you use real drums or any other synth for the drum track, and only on 4substyle styles . Please though read / watch the thread. http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=438283#Post438283Thanks Mike
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I forgot about Mike Head's XG Lite Yamaha GM
It is very good and FREE so another +1 on that one
Thanks Mike
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The Coyote Forte DXi is really a very good GM synth. Once I bought it for BIAB I stopped trying to find anything else. Ya, it ain't free but once paid for it will run for years for you.
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For its price, Forte really does deliver a very acceptable solution.
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What he said up there. Works great with Biab, just use the 203/206 patch and you are set. Trax
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I continue to use Bandstand without problems in Windows 10
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I really like the Cakewalk TTS-1, but the Forte is nice too. If you'd like to compare the sounds of a few different synths, this page has some great demos: http://www.pgmusic.com/dare-to-compare.htmThanks Kent PG Music
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I really like the WinLive Synth Driver, that you can find (for a very affordable price) form promusicsoftware.com, an Italian manufacturer of music software programs. You can find it at: http://www.promusicsoftware.com/detail0.php?prod=5553&cat=15001400It's Black Friday, so it's on sale at 50% discount! Only our 14.50 it's a no brainer! Please grab it ASAP, you won't be disappointed! P.S. I'm in no means an affiliated to Pro Music Software :-) All the best from Italy Antonio
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That thing sounds pretty good Doctor!
I've noticed over the last few years that there's a lot of good musical stuff coming out of Italy. GSI/Crumar, Ketron, the Legend organ and more.
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Antonio,
Caution! I just bought this Winlive softsynt, you recommended. When trying to download the setup-file my virus scanner (Avast) interrupts the download and alarmed me as it shall be infected with malware!
I will write to Pro Music to find out whats about it.
EDIT: I got a fast response from Pro Music! They reported the setup as safe to Avast and now it downloads and installs without problems.
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Free Virtualmidisynth by Coolsoft! Absolutely amazing and freeware, you are allowed to donate though :-)
It acts as a virtual midi device (like the Microsoft Wavetable).
It uses Soundfonts, and there are some with really great quality, especially for free. You can even layer them. E.G. I really like the FluidR3 GM soundfont, but for piano I take a special free high quality Steinway soundfont which automatically replace the standard piano when loaded.
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Can someone help me with using Winlive Synth Driver with BIAB
Thanks.Glen
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That thing sounds pretty good Doctor! It certainly does! I'm getting it. It's a lot better than Coyote!
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Hi...Just started playing around with Band In A Box. Can anyone recommend a good software synth? Mostly rock style music. Looking for realism (of course). The freebee that comes with BIAB (Roland VSC DXi) sounds "ok" but some things, like guitar, sound like the old midi music.
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Welcome to the forum and BIAB, OrrenHsieh. Yours is a difficult question with many possible answers depending on your budget. Give us an idea about that.
I use a hardware MIDI synth, so I'll leave the recommendations to others who use software synths. You might also look on this forum for similar threads. There is a recent thread here about Halion Sonic 3, for example.
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see Peter Gannon's 'sticky' post at the top about a 'no brainer@..Cakewalk is free and comes with a great softsynth. it's actually the edirol hypercanvas under another name and its by Roland. much of BIAB's midi is optimised for Roland
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