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Hi all, We often see sentences like "try to learn the theory" or "it's never too late to learn" but apart from a few private schools that cost a fortune, I've never seen schools or colleges offering courses for adults who have not been able to do the conservatory before. Do you think there can be special programs for adults without any knowledge in theory?

The online training or youtube tutorials do not interest me, we learn too much information without using them effectively, we do not know where to start and especially we do not know if we are on the right path and how to correct when it is not, I have a friend who has learned the keyboard alone and he plays like a disabled lol, he can not make certain chords, he has trouble relearning the good position of the hands and fingers and advised against learning alone, because it is very difficult to correct these mechanisms once learned.

I did years of graphic design but I want to stop everything and try to make my dream come true, I can now produce instrumental songs, but I always have melodies in my head and I would like to produce them more quickly.
Today I am ready to go anywhere in the world where I could learn piano and / or musical arrangement.

I do not have a tie and even though I'm 36 today, I'm ready to start all over again if there is such a training, so if anyone knows if it's possible, please let me know smile

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This is not exactly the correct answer, but there was a recent thread about learning music and some great suggestion and resources that you might find of use.

The thread is at this link


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Thank you but no, not really, it's a real school that I seek, with a teacher and all its advantages: discipline, correction, motivation, professionalization, goal .......

I was going to leave anyway, but I did not know where, so this goal will serve me to know where to go, it's a project of life, not just a passion, this "future school" will define where I would spend the rest of my life and the musical practice would help me refocus on what I love smile

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My best suggestion is to go to your local music stores and ask them aboutthe type of training you are looking for. The may have somebody on staff that could teach you what you want to know, or they may be able to refer you to a local music training school.

Another thought if you live near a college or university, is to find out who the music professors are that teach the coarses you would most be interested. Contact them and find out if they offer private lessons to non students or if it is possible to audit a course at the college.


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Many community colleges have "Intro To" music theory and/or training. Some have complete music courses. There is on community college around here that has a MIDI course.

I would check them out.


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Something of a quandary.

For arranging and orchestration, you would need to be reasonably accomplished in conventional notation, theory etc. Its the language of trained musicians.


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Samuel Davis:
The only advantage of private lessons is the immediate correction, but many disadvantages I find:
- no goal (we know when it starts but we do not know when it will stop)
- discipline (the teacher teaches you what you want to learn)
- valorisation (diploma)
- ...

We do not have good schools
And no music at the university, neither the primary school nor the high school

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MarioD:
Very interesting, this is the kind of course I'm looking for, I sometimes see ads like this, but it only concerns a short period during vacations for example with an enlightening training of the genre "initiation to the piano" .. .Nothing solid, then.

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duncanwyhte:
Yes of course, but why not a school that evaluates your level and returns you to level "1" to prepare you before allowing you to integrate an orchestration training for example.
It is this level "1" or "0" of which I speak, unfortunately, it does not exist for the adults, one supposes that they necessarily had to learn before, nobody supposes that it is not the case.

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very interesting response

can't help wonder if Bach or Mozart or the many other " musician " had the same concerns

strongly suggest that you just go ahead and learn from all the sources mentioned rather then find fault with those sources

the Band-in-a-Box® is good place to start and the pg forum has many gurus to provide " free " help

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There probably isn't a school that would take the approach you want.

Unfortunately it really is about learning the established systems and achieving a reasonable level of accomplishment.

It was a great struggle for me and I wish I had knuckled down earlier in life, as I would have had many more experiences.

The truth is that there are only a few performers who are that good at both theory and technique. Most folk are just reasonably good and have many failings. But they form the backbone of all the musical endeavours across the world.


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