Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#463193 03/20/18 11:39 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
WendyM Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
Back again. frown I've got an SGU loaded with RTs and they all work except one-1263 Piano.its in Slot2(see pic)and even if I change the RT for ANY other RT the track stays silent. The RT demo plays OK and if I insert 1263 into another SGU it plays as it should.Have I missed a step somewhere?Nothing is muted in F5 and the volume is up as you can see.Baffled. confused
Wendy

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Last edited by WendyM; 03/20/18 11:42 AM.

BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
K
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
K
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
Hi Wendy,

If you email the song file to support@pgmusic.com, we'll be happy to check it out.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
WendyM Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
Originally Posted By: Kent - PG Music
Hi Wendy,

If you email the song file to support@pgmusic.com, we'll be happy to check it out.

Thanks
Kent
PG Music


Hi Kent.Done that.
Wendy


BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,607
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,607
Wendy,

This behaviour sounds like it might be a setting that's crept into the style when it was created. What is the style that you used?

I'd like to see if I can recreate your problem.

Regards,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
K
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
K
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
Hi Wendy,

Thanks for sending the song file. I figured out how to fix it, but I'm not sure how this happened.

When I first opened your song and clicked on the Plugins tab of the mixer, the Piano track said it had Sforzando on it, which is a synth and only for MIDI tracks, though it was an audio track with a RealTrack on it. So though the track name had turned green, it was still kind of a MIDI track, but trying to play audio, so was silent.

I tried to replicate this issue with a new song and wasn't able to (yet), but I did figure out how to fix yours. I clicked on the track, went to Select MIDI SuperTrack for this Track, picked a random one, clicked OK. Then I went to Select MIDI SuperTrack again, and chose "No MIDI SuperTrack" to remove it.

Now it's a normal MIDI track, without Sforzando, and I could switch to a RealTrack with no issues.

Was this song created with the 2018 version of BIAB, or is it an older song created with a previous version?

Thanks
Kent
PG Music

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
K
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
K
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
I just figured it out.

If you have a MIDI track with a Hi-Q sound applied to it, then add a RealTrack to that track without first either taking Sforzando off the track, or removing the SuperTrack if there is one (by selecting "No MIDI SuperTrack"), Band-in-a-Box gets confused about whether it's an audio track or MIDI, and the track goes silent.

I'm reporting the bug now. Thanks for letting us know about the issue!

Thanks
Kent
PG Music

Last edited by Kent - PG Music; 03/21/18 11:16 AM.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
WendyM Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
Hi Noel and Kent.You have put so much thought into it.Thank you so much.
The style is =COWB_GS.STY and slot2 is a midi-1-ACOUSTIC PIANO.Didnt like it so subbed 1263 Piano instead-and it wouldnt play.Being a bit ham-fisted Im notsure now if I managed to click on any submenu but I dont think so.
Im using 2018Plus and am up to date-513.The original SGU now much modified by me is one o"Tonys Cover Songs"that were linked on here as free downloads so could be any age.Sorry.
Thank you for the fix,Kent.
Wendy


BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,593
Veteran
Online Happy
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,593
Very interesting, Kent. Thank you for explaining it to us.


BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,108
Thanks Kent for the detailed explanation. Obviously you put a bit of detective work into that.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
K
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
K
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
Hi Wendy,

It seems like at some point you'd applied a Hi-Q sound to the track, or added a MIDI SuperTrack, which automatically added a Hi-Q sound.

You didn't do anything wrong, and there's no way you could have known that this would cause an issue. Band-in-a-Box really should have just removed Sforzando from the track automatically.

My fix should work right away though, I tested it pretty thoroughly. smile

Matt and VideoTrack, you're very welcome!

Cheers
Kent
PG Music

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
WendyM Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
Ah now you mention it,in the course of trying anoter piano in slot2 I think i did look at an MST or something midi before liking 1263.
HOWEVER after fixing my SGU and resaving with new name I thought to open the old one with the prblem in RB which i am just starting to try and learn a bit about.Just lookin'.Lol.Q-why does it take such a long time to open an SGU in RB?Anyway,when it opened there is the Piano track!And it played!I saved it as a SEQ file but couldnt get that to work in BB afterwards so went back to RB,another long wait,and found out how to save as ?G?.It opened ok in BB and the darned Piano worked!Flip!!! shocked crazyDidnt do nothin'.Honest, Mister smile
How did that fix it.
Wendy


BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,607
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,607
Wendy,

It was something I discovered around 3 or 4 years ago.

If one opens a corrupt or not-working SGU or MGU file in Realband and then saves it as SGU or MGU (with a new name to safeguard the original file), the problem with the file is often solved.

Realband strips away issues because when it opens BIAB, it doesn't load as many processes (at least that's how I understand it).

Regards,
Noel


MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2026
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Special Offers Extended Until May 31st!

Good news- we've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® special offers until May 31, 2026!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 is packed with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can transcribe an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PDT on May 31st, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Check out the Band-in-a-Box® for Mac packages page to find the best package for you.

Holiday Weekend Hours

It's Victoria Day Long Weekend in Canada. Our Customer Service hours are:

Saturday, May 16: Closed
Sunday, May 17: Closed
Monday, May 18: 8:00am - 4:00pm

Regular hours
resume Tuesday, May 19th!

Today's the Last Day of the Band-in-a-Box 2026® for Mac Special!

Order before 11:59pm PDT today (May 15, 2026) to save up to 50% off your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® upgrade and receive a FREE Bonus PAK loaded with great new Add-ons to use with this new version!

Don't wait - order today!

Check out all the new features in the redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac - Special Offers End at 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th, 2026!

Order before 11:59pm PDT on Friday, May 15th and SAVE up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® version 2026 for Mac Upgrade packages... and that's not all! With your version 2026 for Mac purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks... that's 222 NEW RealTracks available with version Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac!

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac® today for as little as $49! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all available purchase options.

Learn more about the Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK here.

If you have any questions about which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We're here to help!

202 New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2026!

With Band-in-a-Box® 2026, we've released 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 468-488) in a variety of genres—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Funk & World (Sets 468-475):
Our new jazz, funk & blues RealTracks include a groovin’ collection of RealTracks and RealDrums! These include more requested “soul jazz” RealTracks featuring artists Neil Swainson (bass), Charles Treadway (organ), Brent Mason (guitar), and Wes Little (drums). There are new “smooth jazz” styles (4), which include a RealTracks first: muted trumpet, as well as slick new smooth jazz brushes options for drums. Blues lovers will be thrilled—there are more “classic acoustic blues” styles, including guitar (5), bass (4), and drums (10) with blues master Colin Linden, featuring understated and tasty background acoustic soloing, plus brushes drums and acoustic bass. There are also new electric blues RealTracks, including electric blues with PG favorite Johnny Hiland (3) and soulful electric slide guitar from Colin Linden (4). If you love funk & gospel, there are great new options this year, including gospel organ (3) from Charles Treadway, as well as new funk, tango, and rock ’n’ roll drums (3) and bass (1). And for big, bold arrangements, we have uptempo soul horns (4) featuring a three-part hip horn section with options for a full mix or stems of each individual horn — plus an accompanying rhythm section (4) of drums, bass, guitar, and electric piano!

Rock & Pop (Sets 476–482):
Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.

Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.

Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!

And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.

The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!

All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!

It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!

The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.

The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,329
Posts803,441
Members40,097
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
Newest Members
kmmwlton32, Hikes77, guitarharry, Duncan-RTFM, 65Jaguar
40,096 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 121
vicarn 96
DC Ron 83
rsdean 82
dcuny 63
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5