I've recently become a Band in a Box junkie, and I'm using it to do live renditions of all sorts of songs for my band which consists of me (sax) and a great drummer and BIAB. Rich is an excellent drummer and I'd like to make space for him to take live drum solos in my BIAB arrangements. Currently, we just mute the drum patches and Rich is the drummer. I've started hashing out the particulars with him and it dawned on me that I may be re-inventing the wheel. Maybe some one on the Forum has already done this and would be willing to share their thoughts and experiences. I've tossed around the idea of simply making silent space in the song but that requires that Rich be perfect on his solo ending and come in preciscely with the rest of the BIAB band. So, I thought about adding a click during the solo or maybe a bass note on beat one of each measure or a lead in a few measures before the full band comes back in again. I don't want to mess up the drum solo but I also don't want to train-wrech the whole tune.
A click track will allow live and BIAB tracks to synch. Ableton Live is an excellent software that many use to program their songs and even their entire shows. Ableton Live Lite is a free downloadable version and will meet all your needs. There are loads of tutorials on YouTube. Once you've programmed a show, it is quick and easy to update or change songs around or replace them. It's a very powerful tool.
You can create and use a click track with Ableton Live Lite. You can also load your BIAB tracks and play them from Ableton. they can be synced and played along with the click track as a guide for the live musicians.
You can have a midi click track where you need it in Biab and send that midi to another standalone vsti via midiOut.dll loaded in the click track, the standalone vsti is set to another audio device going to the drummer's ear piece.
I have downloaded the drum Software (32) and set it into my vst file... It loads ok in Biab and I get the screen all right... but not under "drums" The plug in does not load). If I choose for ex "soloist" as an instrument, then the drum screen will apear. Unfortunately, although everything seems to work correctly, (I can change the settings within the plug in) there is no sound coming out from the plug in(Biab itself is sounding ok as usual). Biab is set to "use vsti plug in") Have I forgotten something? Bernard
A click track will allow live and BIAB tracks to synch.
Alas and for the umpteenth time i WISH Biab could sync to external sources ....
Originally Posted By: Bernard
.... I have downloaded the drum Software (32) and set it into my vst file... It loads ok in Biab and I get the screen all right ... but not under "drums" The plug in does not load).
Set the drums track to MIDI Only, (right click on it), then load f.i. EZdrummer2 or other to the VST slot for the Drums track if you want to control the sounds via a MIDI-pads drumkit, if that's what you're after .. F
Yyyeesss! It works! Thanks for the clue... Of course, it was a bad idea to give me the answer, because now I have ten other stupid questions!
1) It seems that, once I have loaded the .dll file within the plug-ins in Biab, it does not "stay there" (as all other plug-ins bravely do). I have to reload this .fll time everytime I use Biab again (??).
2) Once I have succeeded to set 10 measures of "groove" (the blue blocks) how do I send it to Biab? My obvious (lazy) solution of taking it and dumping it to Biab does not seem to work (yes I understand it would be a bit "too simple"!!)
If you want it to load all the time set it as Default Synth, so in the vst window choose the Default Synth track and load MT Power Drummer. Of course if you use other midi tracks you will have to change them but this will give you MT Drummer on boot.
Once you have made the drum track section you can drag it out to a folder then > File > Import > Import Melody/Soloist from MIDI. In the import dialog import the section of Midi to the bar you want it to start at, them import the next section. The midi drum track can be copied or moved from the Mel/Sol track to the Drum track in the Piano Roll, you can copy & paste section to duplicate them. Or you can use RealBand to drag out of MT Drummer straight to the track then import back to Biab.
OK, Pipeline, all well noted and thanks, thanks and thanks for bringing me further...
Concerning the other drums software, you force me to get untarned! I HAVE tried to download it and failed completely (shame!). I went through the process gave EMail and registered, but the download did not succeed and I could not load it again (I do not see, when I log in to the site, any possibility to download the softwsre again). So I forgot it, since these plug-ins are not "vital" to my music. I am just curious of any new progrsam and want to try it... Bernard
I've used Reaper to dump my song, "Caravan" from BAIB, opened up a section for silence to acomodate the drum solo, and inserted a click track. That's great! Thanks for all the help. But I cannot figure out how to get the click to play only for the drummer. How does one accomplish this? Are we talking a fancy mixer board with sub-groups, etc.?
You can have a midi click track where you need it in Biab and send that midi to another standalone vsti via midiOut.dll loaded in the click track, the standalone vsti is set to another audio device going to the drummer's ear piece.
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