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ps It certainly used to work, so that may be a clue.
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Hmmm... Was making a tune and realized that guitars do not "catch" slash chords...remembered somebody starting this thread. I assume the problem is global... and hopefully it will be resolved with next patch.
Instead of spilling my problem in detail, want to post in this thread confirming that I too experience the issue with slash chords. If tech team needs my SGU, please contact me and I will share.
Thanks.
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PG Music people : Don't lose the initial spirit of my post.
Not implementing this chord Dm9/C, for example, would be 'acceptable' if we get Dm7/C
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Having frequent chords as C7/E or Dm75b/Ab not working for many RealTracks is not acceptable IHMO, for a professional reputed software.
That is what I mean in my post.
Today the slash chord feature for RT is working in about only 50% of the slash chords.
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I understand. In my case, I need Dm9/C to work; I had a song with this just yesterday. But I get your meaning if it comes to priorities.
The odd thing is, slash root used to work fine whatever the chord.
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All the comments in the posts demonstate that it becomes urgent for PG Music to fix this request and to make sure that new coming Bass RealTracks have not this bug.
Otherwise, as long they are generating new RealTracks without checking them according to my post, they generate a potentially bugged RT, whilst they know the problem.
So a new Bass RT and potentially a new bugged RT.
Seen the oustanding list of bugs waiting for a fix, I'm not sure that is what they want.
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John-Luke.
I think what Matt is trying to point out is this:
"The odd thing is, slash root used to work fine whatever the chord."
I thought so too...
Maybe Dave D (of PG Music Staff) can shine some light on this.
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+1 Also seems to me that all the issues you raise can also be bundled with the one i raise here: "Bass RealTracks: fix the unrealistic bass-line "note-jumps" https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=513300#Post513300
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"Bass RealTracks: fix the unrealistic bass-line "note-jumps"
This has already been asked, but +1
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Yes, the algorithm does a wonderful job already, but in some aspects it could still be improved. So +1 also here
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John-Luke, I'm all for your proposal, but I'd like to point out one segment of your comment that I believe is in error. You wrote:
"For example : Bass RT N°2426
C2 chord / 2 beats : the bass plays G - E, sometimes you may get the notes C - E, that is correct."
BiaB spells the Csus2 chord as C2, but incorrectly includes the E, the 3rd of the chord, which does not exist in either sus2 or sus4 chords. The major 2nd is substituted for the 3rd with a sus2 and the 4th is substituted for the 3rd with a sus4 chord.
This is a recent pet peeve of mine -- specifically the misspelling on the staff of the sus2 chord by including the 3rd -- and I have notified PGM that they are not following universally accepted chord theory. I hope they correct this. Instead of a C2, they are actually creating a Cadd9, which is not what one needs when one wants the suspension.
Member Noel pointed out to me that one can use another sus4 chord's inversion to arrive at the same result. E.g., a Csus2 is also a Gsus4/C. And of course making sure that BiaB behaves when this /C is indicated is, of course, essential.
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Good point cooltouch !
You're right : PGM don't follow the standard of definition of some chords, thus adding some difficulty to understand each other.
In my mind, according to what I know of the PGM realization, the "C2" chord does include the E note, that is why I said that the C - E bass notes were correct.
Absolute speaking, the C2 chord do not include the E note and so the C - E bass notes are wrong.
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Cooltouch is absolutely right. BIAB has three chord types that are all implemented as a 2 chord. The following is part of the contents of the file /BB/Data/pgshortc.txt where this is clear. I highlighted the 2 chords:
Note these are already defined in BB, and you can't over-ride these shortcuts
;sus2@2 add2@2 m+@m#5 dim7@dim 7aug@7+ sus4@sus 11@9sus 9sus4@9sus
;13sus4@13sus add9@2 7sus4@7sus s@7sus h@m7b5 d@dim J@MAJ7
; f@7b9 m7+@m7#5 NC@C. no chord l@7Alt u@(Blues) 7u@7(Blues)
; Lyd@lydian Lyd@lyd Lyd@4#
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I guess you need so much recorded material to cover all the possibilities. I disagree, to get a basic functionality, the bass should simply ignore the upper part of the chords, and play D (maybe with simple patterns using fifths and octaves) over Cm7/D. For example, take a look here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IsK_91ZdvXoSdPRQ4IYd-2Bn1hfBhjMC/view?usp=sharingRealTracks in song: ~903:Bass, Electric, SmoothCool Sw16 100 RealTracks in song: 2765:Bass, Electric, PuertoRicoAguinaldo Ev16 120 RealTracks in song: 3111:Bass, Electric FunkSimpleAlex Ev16 110 RealTracks in song: 2620:Bass, Electric, FunkSwing16ths Sw16 085 RealTracks in song: 2607:Bass, Electric, ModernSlapFunkAlex Ev16 110 RealTracks in song: 2960:Bass, Acoustic, SmoothBalladNeil Ev16 065 RealTracks in song: 3049:Bass, Acoustic, SpanishTangoNeil Ev 120 Only #903 is playing correctly, all the other ones are simply ignoring slash chords instructions, playing Cm7 patterns over Cm7/D chords, which is plain wrong. After the last update, all bass realtracks on the example plays correctly. Thanks!
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