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To me it seem's the same content but a big difference in price 149 VS 179. Anyone know why???

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Looks like one comes with just one free pack, the other one comes with the 49 pack as well I think ?.


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Thanks found the answer


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Hi Nels,

The below links explain the different packages more fully.

ULTRAPAK
https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultrapak.htm

ULTRAPAK+
https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultrapakplus.htm

Also, if you have the 2018 UltraPak, then the PlusPak would be worth considering. This contains the new material needed to bring the 2018 UltraPak up to the 2019 UltraPak.

PLUSPAK
https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.pluspak.htm

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There is some midi fakebooks and some other stuff included with the ultra Pack Plus which I guess accounts for the higher price


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I chatted with sales today and confirmed the only difference between UltraPak and UltraPak+ is the Video Tutorial PAK and the MIDI Songs & Lessons PAK. They also confirmed these two items have not changed. If you have them you definitely do NOT need UltraPak+. And when I bought them a couple of years ago I found even then they were out of date so even if you don't have them you don't need them! smile

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From following Noel's links above the Ultrapak+ includes the bonus pak with 40 unreleased RT's in it. The Ultrapak does not have those so it depends if you want those extra new RTs or not. smile

Here's the direct link to bonus pak info.

https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.bonuspaks_2019.htm

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Originally Posted By: Sundance
From following Noel's links above the Ultrapak+ includes the bonus pak with 40 unreleased RT's in it. The Ultrapak does not have those

I don't think that is correct. I chatted with PGM and they did not say the UltraPAK+ includes the 40 unreleased RTs. Those are gonna cost an extra $49 with either UltraPAK or UltraPAK+.

Also, if you look at the packages page it tells you exactly what is in UltraPAK and what is in UltraPAK+. I highlighted the differences and in neither case does it say you get the 40 unreleased RTs.


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and in neither case does it say you get the 40 unreleased RTs.


JJJ,
In your images both say Free Bonus Pak at very bottom; I believe those are the additional RTs.


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and in neither case does it say you get the 40 unreleased RTs.


JJJ,
In your images both say Free Bonus Pak at very bottom; I believe those are the additional RTs.

Nope. There are two bonus paks...a free one (included with UltraPAK and UltraPAK+) and a $49 one. The one in the images is the free one. https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.bonuspaks_2019.htm

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JJJ, When I click on this link https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultrapakplus.htm
it lists 2 free bonus paks not just one like your image shows. So if you are correct then the page needs to be corrected.

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Just to be absolutely certain I just now asked PGM again and this is what they said...
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Hello, your Sales representative is Ember

Welcome to PG Music Visitor. Ember will be right with you.

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Welcome to PG Music's Live Help. How may we assist you today?

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Are the 40 unreleased RealTracks included with any package or only available as an extra purchase at $49?

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They are not no, they are additional purchase

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So just to be clear...UltraPAK+ does NOT include the 40 unreleased RealTracks?

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That is correct.

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Originally Posted By: Sundance
JJJ, When I click on this link https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.ultrapakplus.htm
it lists 2 free bonus paks not just one like your image shows. So if you are correct then the page needs to be corrected.

If you look closely you'll see BOTH of those links go to the same page. And on that page it describes two PAKs...a free one and a $49 one.

UltraPak+ only differs from UltraPAK by adding two older products, Video Tutorial PAK and the MIDI Songs & Lessons PAK. No other differences!

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Well then they need to correct the linked page then because it lists it like this

Free Bonus Pak
Free Bonus Pak

which would make one assume that you are getting both. Did you click on the link JJJ? You do see the TWO bonus paks links don't you?

I'm just going by what I see. smile

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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Well then they need to correct the linked page then because it lists it like this

Free Bonus Pak
Free Bonus Pak

which would make one assume that you are getting both. Did you click on the link JJJ? You do see the TWO bonus paks links don't you?

I'm just going by what I see. smile


Did you click both links? They are identical. A mistake!

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Yes I did, And the first link shows one bonus pak listed at the bottom. The second shows it listed twice. If you are only getting one why are they listing it twice.

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Yes the link(s) leads to the same page but the page describes the two different paks.

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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Yes the link(s) leads to the same page but the page describes the two different paks.
both links say FREE but when you get to the page it describes two PAKs...a FREE one and one you pay for.

Anyway it doesn't matter...two different PGM reps have confirmed you do NOT get the 40 unreleased RTs in the UltraPAK or UltraPAK+! Seems like they would know, right?

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Yes. I understand. If you're going to get the xtra RTs it's going to cost $49 more.

They should fix the page. There's too much confusion on these upgrades every year. Sorry for mine.

Thanks for showing the real difference because i don't want to pay for something I've already got either since it's going to cost me $49 extra from the get go to get all the available RTs. smile

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I know they try but dang, the ordering options are always so confusing!

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