Just curious as I rough out a song in BIAB then finish in RB (or PowerTracks).
Possible issues are using the built in 64 bit soft synth in BIAB and not having it available in RB?
Or using jbridge in BIAB to use my 32 bit soft synths coyote forte and edirol hypercanvas - will jbridge automatically work in RB too?
Of course I could stick to 32 bit BIAB 2019 and as a post in the BIAB forum points out I probably won't miss much - but I would like to try out the new built in 64 bit GM synth.
I've read somewhere that 2019 RealBand is a 32 bit program. PowerTracks Pro is still 2018 so I'm sure it remains 32 bit.
On my computer running Windows 7 64 bits, the operating system views Band-in-a-Box 32 bit and Band-in-a-Box 64 bit as two, distinct programs. However, both programs save the exact, same Band-in-a-Box files.
During installation, the Band-in-a-Box installer creates a sub-folder at "X:bb\Songs" where X = your BiaB installation hard drive letter. So, if you open both programs and save song files to the common location you should be able to use the 64 bit soft synth in the 64 bit BiaB without resorting to jBridge. Render the tracks to WAV. In RealBand, import both the song file and track renders. You can use Edirol HyperCanvas and Coyote Forte in the 32 bit BiaB or RB. The best of both worlds.
Well... Looking at how well the 64-bit BIAB VST with Studio One, if PG's own DAW can't deliver at the same level, it's kinda an admission of, so to speak, defeat, isn't it? Specially with FREE, 64-bit DAWs like Tracktion 7 and specially Cakewalk by Bandlab, which both allow 3rd party plug-ins with full function.
I wouldn't be surprised if PG would "drop the ball" in R&D for Real Band and/or Power Tracks, unless they have a complete overhaul project for 2020, maybe somehow incorporating RB in BIAB, keeping the same UI and functionality across both programs?
agree rharv - i like the two separate programs - i even revert to PowerTracks as its RB without the bells and whistles and sometimes its simpler and faster
Didn't mean to hijack the thread so severely. Sorry OP
As far as your question, I am able to run the new Synthfont64 in RB (I do have JBridge so maybe that is why?)
The image below shows I went even further and loaded a different sound font inside the VST, so it's not the default sound font and may appear different than yours, but the synth does seem to run in RB. You should be able to open the Synthfont VST in RB as part of your work flow, and if you leave the default font I think you'll be fine. I just like to tinker with stuff.
/Hey, they gave me something with interchangeable parts to tinker with, so I interchanged some parts
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If PGMusic merged the two it would be the end of me using their products
That's quite a bold statement for a power user like yourself, Mario. May I ask you to elaborate on the scenario that would get you to drop BIAB altogether, if RB is "assimilated" (so to speak, also considering the other negative posts on the subject)?
If PGMusic merged the two it would be the end of me using their products
That's quite a bold statement for a power user like yourself, Mario. May I ask you to elaborate on the scenario that would get you to drop BIAB altogether, if RB is "assimilated" (so to speak, also considering the other negative posts on the subject)?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
If BiaB and RB were merged and the outcome was more like RB then BiaB I would be through using PGMusic products. Personally I do not like the way RB is configured. I have used other DAWs with no problems and RB always seems to throw me and IMHO it is a bit of a throw back in the world of DAWs. THIS IS NO PUT DOWN ON THOSE WHOM HAVE MASTERED AND USE RB, it is just not my cup of tea or workflow.
Note that I am not a real power user. I mostly take MIDI tracks from BiaB, drag n drop them into Studio One, and do all of my work there. If I have a client singer I will do the same except with RTs. I really don't dig deep into BiaB.
YMMV
PS - Maybe in a few years you can call me the world's biggest hypocrite!
Last edited by MarioD; 12/05/1804:05 AM.
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64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
If BiaB and RB were merged and the outcome was more like RB then BiaB I would be through using PGMusic products.
Ok, now that I get where you're coming from, then I totally understand.
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Personally I do not like the way RB is configured.
You're not alone with this sentiment, Mario.
Originally Posted By: MarioD
RB always seems to throw me and IMHO it is a bit of a throw back in the world of DAWs.
Agreed.
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Note that I am not a real power user. I mostly take MIDI tracks from BiaB, drag n drop them into Studio One, and do all of my work there. If I have a client singer I will do the same except with RTs. I really don't dig deep into BiaB.
You're way too modest, Mario. For the record, I too am a Studio One user, and I became one mostly because of RB's shortcomings, I must say.
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Maybe in a few years you can call me the world's biggest hypocrite!
Nobody that changed his/her mind because of reasoning could ever be called hypocrite.
Anyway, if in the future an integrated BIAB/RB results in being more BIAB than RB, I would consider having and keeping. And, of course, keeping Studio One as well. I don't think RB will ever be a contender for Studio One anyway.
Thank you for taking the time to respond, Mario. Much appreciated!
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