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I want to know FOR SURE whether the plugin works with Reason. The answer will inform my decision whether to buy 2019.
“I don’t know why it shouldn’t” is not an acceptable answer.
Have emailed Support but am impatient. (Also tried Chat midday, but got no response.)
Cheers, y’all!
R.
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Reasonable question. I don't recall this DAW being mentioned by anyone in testing.
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I want to know FOR SURE whether the plugin works with Reason. The answer will inform my decision whether to buy 2019.
“I don’t know why it shouldn’t” is not an acceptable answer.
Have emailed Support but am impatient. (Also tried Chat midday, but got no response.)
Cheers, y’all!
R. I've not noticed Reason being discussed in the forums since the VST plugin came out. Also, the definition of "works" may be different for you than it is for me or PGM. I got it to kinda work with Reaper but it still crashes sometimes. Sound never plays within the VST; I have to drag tracks from there into my DAW in a one-way operation in order to hear them. I cannot get multiriff feature to work at all. And it took 3:56 to generate a loaded BIAB song that would generate to separate WAV files in only 30 seconds from within BIAB. Then I found it ignores frozen setting in a BIAB file so doing that doesn't help with regeneration time. If you load a BIAB file you must regenerate the whole thing. For me, this is definitely not working yet.
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I went to download Reason to try it but it is 3.6GB so in an hour and a half I'll try it. But you don't have to have it "in" the DAW as how the plugin is at the moment it don't send audio or play in sync so it defeats the purpose of a VST, so you can run it as a standalone with SaviHost but that is much the same as using Biab.
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Yes, the plugin works with Reason. We tested it (Reason 10) and it worked fine.
Its the VST2 becuase Reason doesn't support VST3 as far as we know.
We are releasing DAW specific videos next week, because each of them have their own 'switches' to enable plug-ins and such. Then you'll be able to see it in action with Reason (for example), and pick up any tips on using it.
Have Fun!
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Yes, the plugin works with Reason. We tested it (Reason 10) and it worked fine.
Its the VST2 becuase Reason doesn't support VST3 as far as we know.
We are releasing DAW specific videos next week, because each of them have their own 'switches' to enable plug-ins and such. Then you'll be able to see it in action with Reason (for example), and pick up any tips on using it.
OUTSTANDING! Thank you, Peter! Richard
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It should also work as a ReWire slave for RealBand with the ReWireVST.
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hi I got it to work however did not spend a lot of time working with it I will try working it more today and get back to you thanks eric
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hi peter just saw your message good news thanks eric
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It crashes in Reason for me.
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Stephan,
Are you using the lastest version or Reason,(10.2.2d1) and have you been able to fix the crashes since your earlier post?
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Not working here in Reason 10.2.2d1.
In fact it's not working Studio One 4 either.
It (sometimes) shows up and I can play style demos, load files etc. rendering though it starts drawing a progress bar and gives up after a few seconds without any message as to why.
I've tried two different audio cardss with the same results. No joy.
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hi jonbouy Reason 10.2.2d1.working great on my system normal generation time I created a song using the biab vst plugin with no problems I hope you solve the problem im using asio driver old delta 1010 pci audio card I now sometimes the drivers can make havic at times thanks eric
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hi jonbouy Reason 10.2.2d1.working great on my system normal generation time I created a song using the biab vst plugin with no problems I hope you solve the problem im using asio driver old delta 1010 pci audio card I now sometimes the drivers can make havic at times thanks eric Thanks. I'm a long time BIAB I've always run BIAB with the MME driver using a Roland Quad capture because the BIAB ASIO option has always been problematic for me. I even unplugged the Roland and used the onboard Audio, same problem. I've spent hours trying to figure this out with no joy. I run Sonar 8.5, Studio One 4 and Reason without issues, this isn't a driver issue, it's two different and current audio setups that work swell with everything else, bar BIAB and its plugin.
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I tried the ReWireVST with RealBand slaving Reason 10 and it's seems to work ok. Full Screen 
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@PeterGannon, Would you mind testing again with the latest patches for both Reason 10 and Band-in-a-Box 2019? Multi Riff no longer seems to work. After selecting a sololist real-track and hitting "close", the additional 7 tracks don't appear in the VST plugin window. Thus you can't generate the Multi Riffs.
Multi Riff worked until I applied the latest Biab 2019 patch. It's also possible that I updated Reason 10 with a patch as well. Thus, Multi Riff worked originally, then stopped working after patches (definitely patched biab, may have for Reason 10). Anyway, I'm hoping you'll be able to reproduce and help identify a solution. It's a great feature and I miss it. Since Real-Band has the Multi Riff feature, I been using it in the meantime to create Multi Riffs. I save the audio files then important them into Reason 10. This does work, but the work-flow is more complicated. Having the feature working again in the VST is convenient. Thank you!!
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I was on the verge of ordering and saw this. As this is a make-or-break feature for me, I will be watching raptly for an answer.
R.
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I download Reason 10.2.2d1, loaded the BBvst. loaded a song, hit generate, and dragged the blue square and all the tracks loaded in. The other issues are being fixed as we type. Full Screen 
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Yes, the plugin works with Reason. We tested it (Reason 10) and it worked fine.
Its the VST2 becuase Reason doesn't support VST3 as far as we know.
We are releasing DAW specific videos next week, because each of them have their own 'switches' to enable plug-ins and such. Then you'll be able to see it in action with Reason (for example), and pick up any tips on using it.
@PeterGannon, Would you mind testing again with the latest patches for both Reason 10 and Band-in-a-Box 2019? Multi Riff no longer seems to work. After selecting a sololist real-track and hitting "close", the additional 7 tracks don't appear in the VST plugin window. Thus you can't generate the Multi Riffs. Multi Riff worked until I applied the latest Biab 2019 patch. It's also possible that I updated Reason 10 with a patch as well. Thus, Multi Riff worked originally, then stopped working after patches (definitely patched biab, may have for Reason 10). Anyway, I'm hoping you'll be able to reproduce and help identify a solution. It's a great feature and I miss it. Since Real-Band has the Multi Riff feature, I been using it in the meantime to create Multi Riffs. I save the audio files then important them into Reason 10. This does work, but the work-flow is more complicated. Having the feature working again in the VST is convenient. Thank you!!
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David, I notice that patch #610 has been released today. It can be installed manually by going to the link below. https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htmRegards, Noel
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