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Scrolling the forum there are lots or problems with the current 2019 version of BB.
As the (pseudo?) VST option not only for me is the reason for a probably upgrade I will ask, if PG-music will accept a longer upgrade period as end of the year.
An upgrade period that is related to a stable and working version.
I am willing to buy the upgrade, but not willing to act as a final beta tester.
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Will you please translate, I even do not recognize the language that you are using.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
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No offense to you personally but your post was my last straw on this topic. I FULLY appreciate wanting a fully working stable version but here is the logic of that position (and you are not only one asking for such a price consideration – and again this is not aimed at you personally):
Your position presupposes that BIAB 64-BIT might never be fixed and you don't want to buy it until it has ZERO issues, OK that's a valid consumer point of view. Then simply don't buy it. Wait until ZERO reported issues (maybe December 29, or January 3, or maybe April, or May or June 31st ?) but then buy it at whatever price PG decides is appropriate at that point it will be higher (it will not be a sale price probably).
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Buy BIAB now, at the lower sale price, then SIMPLY DO NOT USE IT, so that you are not BURDENED with being a beta tester, until BIAB has zero 64-bit issues. If you do that you get BIAB (and RB) upgrades whenever, and all year long (until next version), for FREE unlike Steinberg and many, many other software manufactures. BIAB 32-bit version is stable now and nothing is stopping you from making SONGS with the 32 bit version - while you wait.
BTW if you are running Windows 10 Home (even Pro) or even Win 7, Cubase, Reaper, MS office, any 3rd party A/V,or most any commercial software you are already a beta tester!
Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year (I actually mean that,no disrespect or sarcasm intended)
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That answer by Larry is one of the best I have ever read.
Yes, anyone using a computer is beta testing everything about it.
If you scrolled the forum yesterday, you saw that BIAB 2019 64-bit is very nearly caught up to the stability of the 32-bit version. I think that is remarkable. Now the company can concentrate even more on improving the brand-new VST Plugin.
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... buy it until it has ZERO issues ...
I am not that simple minded to expect ZERO issues, but at the moment the offered key feature doesn't seem to work. I learned that lesson ages ago never to buy a software in expectation of a certain feature. By the way, all the years I am using reaper, it never has crashed!
... Buy BIAB now, at the lower sale price, then SIMPLY DO NOT USE IT ...
ok, buy a car and don't drive it, buy a bread, and don't eat it ... I put a simple question here and don't want to end in end- and worthless discussion, so, I am out. Sorry for any inconvenience. horst
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I don't see what's so wrong with Horst's post. He asked in a respectful -but honest- manner, and what he asked for, given the circumstances, it doesn't look too unreasonable to me.
He's not the first person asking for that.
Latest BIAB version, latest build.
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I Too think it is a reasonable request, I would like an extension on the 30 day money back as well.
If certain issues are not resolved then we should be able to say, ok if that's it do I want it or not.
It was not made clear on the issues before purchase, example how many people have said ..Oh I thought the vst would be able too...?.
So yes I do think an extension would be nice on pg music's part ?.
Still no idea at the end of the day what the vsti will bring to the table.
Just saying now !!.
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Jethro Tull album comes to mind
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C'mon Larry
We do have a right as buyers to State our opinions.
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A lot of folk will be popping on to the forum reading what's ..what maybe before doing the upgrade.
This doesn't help one bit.
If they knew that they can buy and try even with bugs, then be in a timeframe to see the issues, as I like to call them ironed out.
Bit more of a safety zone as the issues will be sorted by then as we know, but they don't.
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Yes I know that and respect that.
But we are only trying to highlight the limitations, before getting a good crack of the whip.
As someone posted a wee while ago, more issues this year than other years, but to be expected as the changes are more than usual.
So this is not as upgrades go , this is a turning point for the programme, so maybe a special extension.
I for one do not want to be forced to throw the towel in , but I might have to as my time line might pass and 2019 might not hold all I wanted for my money.
A special one for sure, I am confident the issues will be sorted.
Would like to know the limitations of the vsti, then I know if this is acceptable .
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Yes, the original post was a reasonable request, and respectfully stated.
I don't remember a time in the past when we were as close to 30 days after the first release that some major components were still being worked on this hard. Past practice is not a guide, but sometimes PG Music extends the sale until mid-January. It will be interesting to see if they take this request into consideration.
In my observation, there are no longer any showstoppers that prevent people from making music with BIAB 2019 as they did with 2018, plus they have new RealTracks and styles to use. The 32-bit version is solid, and as of yesterday's patch, most people's 64-bit version is working with only a couple of remaining folks having issues.
The brand-new VST Plugin is the wildcard here and fixes are coming fast now. But you don't have to use this; it's a convenience to work within your DAW but it isn't essential to make music when you can still Drag 'n Drop tracks. Still, it has terrific potential.
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Your position presupposes that BIAB 64-BIT might never be fixed and you don't want to buy it until it has ZERO issues
Strawman alert. That's not what horst said at all. You seem to have twisted his message to make it easier to fault. Moreover he was polite. He just has this idea that if you pay for something, you should get it, not maybe get it.
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BIAB 2019 64-bit is very nearly caught up to the stability of the 32-bit version. I think that is remarkable. Why is it "remarkable" that they have almost fixed the known bugs in a product they released 3 weeks ago and had a year to work on? You need to raise your expectations!
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