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Ok...
I open Reaper 64bit and add an instrument track with the Band in a Box VST plugin (tried both VSTi and VST3).
Add chords and pick a style and press generate.
The little blue bar only goes about a 1/4 inch then returns to the beginning and does not generate anything.
I've changed audio from my Presonus 192 to the WAS and that didn't help either.
I know the original plugin from the first release worked just fine but was limited in functionality which has been well documented on the forum.
I even tried the Stand alone version in the BBPlugin/Files folder which is an EXE file and do the above and get the same results.
In the BBPlugin/SavedTracks folder there is an output text file and shows this error:
Error=-14
BBHandle=593194
;Error #-14, WindowHandleForMessages is not defined
StyleTimeSig=4
CompileTimeSeconds=0
I have a high end Rizen 7, Radeon RX580 Video, Republic of Gaming 8350-F Motherboard, 16Gbs of ram and both "C" and "D" drive are SSD drives. I have my BB on the "D" drive.
Any ideas gang?!?!
Marcus2323
Rizen 7 2700X, Radeon RX58700 XT Video,
Presonus Studio 192,
Republic of Gaming 8350-F Motherboard,
16Gbs of ram
Windows 10 Home
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2019 is destined to be the year of these kinds of posts! The upside? We are seeing a ton of new forum users as they try to get BIAB VST to work and when it doesn't they come here! Hopefully they'll stay and PGM will fix the issues and the BIAB family will grow with some fresh blood!
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So far it’s a bust while the plugin did begin to generate the multiriffs it locked up Studio one 4 and I had to crash the program. I’m trying it in standalone mode
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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Well so far both the VSTI3 and the standalone version do not work properly here.
Both allow me to generate from a style, then when I try multi riff it locks up and won’t finish the blue progress bar locks at about what looks like 90% then I get error messages. I am going to try tech support and see maybe it’s me but kinda doubt it.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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RobH, Marcus. When I wake tomorrow morning I hope we don't have one other person reporting these negative results. My Christmas wish is that you are the only two out of dozens and dozens (if not 1000s  ) of folks who are having these issues with V609. And that everyone else is busily working on creating new music with the Reaper-BBVSTi. But don't worry, when this Christmas miracle occurs, PGM will be able to put all their attention to helping both of you. Dan
BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).
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Tried it in Studio one 2,65, Studio one 4, Reaper, and as a standalone. No joy I get a message in all three DAWs “Range Check Error at: 00407C4A”
Trying to reinstall the update now to see if something went south
Hopeful but not expecting much.
Talked to Kent by live chat. He tried to help, but for him it works fine there. I am beginning to think that this is going to be a long journey to get the thing working properly.
Last edited by RobH; 12/24/18 03:41 PM.
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Same problem in Studio One 4 for me too. Error Message: Range Check Error. However this update at least allows me to do multi riffs sometimes. I wasn't able to generate multi riffs at all before this update.
Last edited by snico; 12/24/18 03:47 PM.
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I just opened up a new file and it actually worked. Yet not as the video said I didn’t click all riffs I just click one of the riffs and clicked generate and it did them all. I just tried again and it started to generate without hitting the command
Last edited by RobH; 12/24/18 04:02 PM.
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I installed the latest release and I get the "Range check error at: 00407C4A." every time. But if I click OK and then click through the warning that it has crashed it seems to work. With that serious of a crash I wouldn't use it for anything but beta testing right now.
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JJJ doesn’t the blue progress bar freeze on your system?
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JJJ doesn’t the blue progress bar freeze on your system? Ok, I just downloaded the latest build (even though it already was 609!) and now it will never complete the multiriff generation! The blue bar stops at about 4/5 of the way through and I get the error. If I try again, same result. Every time I try, same result. This is behaving worse than the last build. Now it is unusable.
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Daaaaaaamn this thing actually worked once more testing to follow.
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22 minutes and still says 4 sec to render
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Yes I get the out of range error as well. However if I make the song fairly short like 12 bars the multi riff seems to work. Another problem I experienced was I loaded one of the demo songs called Mmm River Gospel 12-8 with Vocal Mmms.SGU. This song has a multi RT with the vocal mmms and would not generate that track at all but generated the rest of them. So it looks like it will not generate a multi RT.
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So Brian I guess that means we should make a bunch of short jingles!
I got it to work one time then it stopped. I called PGM and was told that, and I quote “ it works here on our computers”, great maybe PGM can have someone swing by my house and let me use their computer when I want to create a new project, since mine won’t work three update patches in.
I have every confidence that it’s going to be fixed and will be working properly soon. Just it’s very frustrating to buy something that needs fixing. Kind of like recalls on your car.
Oh well maybe the next patch will get it right, or the next, or .............
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I was able to render short 12 bar song in ableton. render time was long but it worked. i was able to regenerate a single, separate track with no issue. multi riff caused range error but I was able to click through that and render completely although render time for 8 bars was over 12 minutes. ( Now i know why they skip ahead in video). tried to re gen one of the multis and it tried to do them all and crashed ableton completely causing need for full reboot of computer.
Maybe 610 will be the one?
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I'm giving up on the VST! The main BIAB generates and I can drag over just as fast if not faster than the plugin ever did. I'm waisting more time just trouble shooting rather than making music. In all fairness....my music isn't that great!  I've had BIAB for many years and have faith that they will sort this out. When you think that the various combinations of hardware and drivers in all the computers running this...there are bound to be issues. G'nite and Merry Christmas to the BIAB forums clan! 
Marcus2323
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RobH, Marcus. When I wake tomorrow morning I hope we don't have one other person reporting these negative results. My Christmas wish is that you are the only two out of dozens and dozens (if not 1000s ) of folks who are having these issues with V609. Marcus JJJ RobH Brian Rap429 Well only 5? ... doesn't look like a total bust for V209 but not exactly the Christmas Miracle I was hoping for. 
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