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I'm looking to buy a new Windows laptop that will run BiaB. Any recommendations? I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to inquire on.
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My laptop is a pretty old Toshiba so I’ll let others recommend current ones. My only recommendation is, don’t skimp on the CPU.
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The only laptop I'll buy is a ThinkPad. They are almost bulletproof. I'm still using a 2002 model on stage.
I can't give you details, but I always go for the biggest HD and the most RAM they offer. These are the kinds of things you can't have too much of.
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Since you're purchasing new and want one primarily to run Band-in-a-Box my suggestions are:
1) If you can choose between a desktop or a laptop, choose the desktop. You may be able to use your existing monitor, speakers or other accessories thus saving some upfront costs. Desktop parts are cheaper than their laptop counterparts and MUCH easier to swap if there is a need to in the future.
2) Buy a name brand you trust. Dell, Lenova, HP, Toshiba and Acer all have well designed and configured products. I prefer Dell just because I've used a lot of their stuff, the website product support is easy to navigate and is very comprehensive, the included hardware diagnostics are good and you can download user, parts and service manuals.
3) The two main cpu processor manufacturers are Intel and AMD. While both work well I prefer Intel because the Intel cpu support chips seem to perform better in audio tests than AMD. I would look for i3, i5 or i7 cpu chips. The higher the number, the more powerful the Intel cpu.
4) Buy as much ram as you can afford with 8 GB as a minimum and 16 GB or higher desirable.
5) Buy as large of a primary storage drive as you can afford.
6) If you must choose between cpu, amount of ram or storage drive size I'd want more ram first, upgraded cpu second and storage third.
6) Finally, The two main versions of Microsoft Windows are Home and Pro. Get Pro because Pro has more configuring options you may need later on since you're working with audio.
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If you're looking for a laptop, consider a USB to audio output device to drive external speakers, rather than the 3.5mm plug on the laptop. The USB connection will be much more reliable.
The speakers in laptops leave a lot to be desired, and you'll need an external sound system. (You may have this already.)
Definitely go for Intel chipset, and my recommendation is i5 as a minimum (i7 preferred)
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Definitely agree with VideoTrack on the Intel chips and the i5 or i7 recommendations. Have helped several others set up DAW audio systems, those that went with i3's were sadly disappointed early on due to speed and processing capabilities.
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And I agree with VideoTrack on the USB to audio interface.
The USB connection is more reliable and the bandwidth is probably wider (depending on the computer) so the fidelity would be better.
Choose the outboard amp and speakers well. There are a number of near field powered monitors that should do the job nicely. Of course the better they sound, the more they generally cost, but choose your point of diminishing returns.
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Thanks for the tips!
I'm wondering if a gaming laptop would be the way to go, since it is more powerful.
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A gaming laptop will have better graphics, and possibly sound, and probably more RAM.
Definitely you want to be checking processor (i5 and preferably i7), RAM (8Gb and preferably more, like 12 or 16), and disk drive capacity (like 1Tb plus). Check screen size that it is large enough for your viewing purposes.
Other things to check are the number of USB ports (and that USB-3 is included).
Touch screen might be a nice-to-have.
Does it have Bluetooth, wireless etc? (nearly everything now does).
What operating system is included? Windows Home(basic) or Windows Professional(more features).
Whatever you get now needs to last for hopefully a long time, so don't marginalize your purchase. Newer software features will come along to use up at least some of your spare resources.
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I'm wondering if a gaming laptop would be the way to go, since it is more powerful. No need to have powerful gaming PCs -> BiaB runs swiftly even on somewhat dated PCs. I have BiaB running smoothly here on an i5 8GB Surface Pro with an affordable 400GB SD card. It's a perfect combination. You may even put the tablet easily on some music stand.
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Most laptops that are new out on the market that have these minimum requirements are going to be able to run Band-in-a-Box (keep in mind these are the bare minimums): https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.requirements.htmAs far as my own personal opinion goes, if you want a smoother performance, I'd personally recommend a minimum of 6-8GB of RAM, and I've had nothing but good experiences with an Intel Core i5 or i7 processor. The latest i7 chips offer up to six cores and 12 threads, making them better suited for advanced multitasking.
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The only laptop I'll buy is a ThinkPad. They are almost bulletproof. I'm still using a 2002 model on stage.
I can't give you details, but I always go for the biggest HD and the most RAM they offer. These are the kinds of things you can't have too much of.
Insights and incites by Notes Lots of good tips here, but I'll add a +1 for Lenovo ThinkPads. I'm on my second one now (a P17) and love it. An additional point to consider. Expansion I/O ports. Get as many as you can afford. If possible, select a laptop like my P17 that offers an I/O expansion. Mine connects via Thunderbolt3 and includes USB, HDMI and other kinds of ports. In the music world, ports are gold. Audio interface. MIDI keyboard controller. External SSDs. MIDI foot controller (like the Behringer FCB1010). My specific suggestions: 1) the fastest CPU you can afford, 2) at least 16 GB for RAM and 3) an external SSD for BiaB and other instruments and samples. With an external SSD, you can get away with a 500 MB internal SSD. On my P17, I have a 1 TB internal drive and 3 external SSDs: one 2 TB Thunderbolt3 SSD for BiaB and other VSTi instruments and their samples, and two USB3.2 2 TB drives, one for work files and one for backups. A basic laptop with a 500 MB internal SSD and one 2 TB external USB 3.2 (make sure the laptop provides USB 3.2 support!) for BiaB would be a great place to start. Or finish. I use Samsung external SSDs. Check out the Samsung T7 USB 3.2 drives. They're about 9x faster than a high speed spinner. A 1 TB T7 is $120 and a 2 TB T7 is $220. Samsung T7 1 TB Samsung T7 2 TB
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Perhaps something else to look into: an SSD hard drive. I installed BIAB on one and the difference is like night and day. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Perhaps something else to look into: an SSD hard drive. I installed BIAB on one and the difference is like night and day. Just my 2 cents worth. +1 I think many laptops now come with SSDs by default.
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Could not agree more about the SSD. They can even make slow computers fast again.
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i'm all in on m2 ssd's both internal and external. love em' on my new mini pc. its like a speed demon running biab/rb/reaper music software. heres a very interesting site with a long list of laptops (and mini pc's) and their tested dpc latencies/reviews. the lower the dpc obviously the better for music production imho. https://www.notebookcheck.net/DPC-Latency-Ranking-Which-laptops-and-Windows-tablets-offer-the-lowest-latency.504376.0.htmlimho anyone anticipating buying a new lappie should assess the chosen lappies dpc. hn year to all. om
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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