does this only work with midi styles? I tried to do it with a real style but two of the instruments remained the same and others were added on different tracks instead of the whole style changing at the selected bar
in fact the effect was exactly what I wanted but might not be next time
can i mix and match real and midi styles? say first chorus midi then a real style after that?
I seem to remember somewhere in the manual it said that real tracks wouldn't change
obviously i can do it by saving two BIAB files and opening them alternately in RB and cutting and pasting to amalgamate the two but it's long winded.
or am i getting it wrong as usual and not seeing the easy way to do things?
Been doing some experimenting with 2018 last year, and did not get results i wanted, but changing styles with RTs should work. Alas still only possible at the start of a bar ...
As I understand it, you need to be careful about what kind of instrument is on what track for each of the styles. You can definitely change styles within a song, as long as each track goes MIDI to MIDI or RealTrack to RealTrack. You can't change to a new style that switches a track from MIDI to RealTrack or vice versa.
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No. It works with any Style. RealStyles, Midi Styles and Third Party Styles
Can i mix and match real and midi styles? say first chorus midi then a real style after that?
Yes. You can mix and match in any order you wish any where in your project you wish. It can be done even if you want to make a change in the middle of a verse or chorus.
I seem to remember somewhere in the manual it said that real tracks wouldn't change
It doesn't matter. See the answer above.
Obviously i can do it by saving two BIAB files and opening them alternately in RB and cutting and pasting to amalgamate the two but it's long winded.
It can be done using only BIAB. You never leave the program and only save multiple sgu files for the safety of having a backup and not having to completely start over from scratch if something fails.
Or am i getting it wrong as usual and not seeing the easy way to do things?
You have to think 'out of the box' to do it in 'Band in a Box'. It's simple to do but it's not easy.
How odd this topic came up today. I spent some time this morning working on a project that touches on each of your questions in one way or the other. I have two full pages on a legal pad of notes recording each step. That seems like a lot, but it isn't really. First, I recorded every step and that includes a lot of things that are part of every workflow and would not normally be listed as a step. Second, there's a lot of repetition. In fact, it's mostly repetition and the number of repetitions will be dependent on how ambitious a project is.
What I'm referring to is the steps to choose, mix and match between midi styles, super midistyles, hybrid styles (midi and Real styles) and RealStyles. Excluding saving files, adding Fx's to tracks, exchanging instruments on a track, choosing and using multiple instruments on a track and using Bar Settings (F5) to mute/unmute, change gain and such, there are probably no more than five steps necessary to build dozens of tracks with dozens of instruments from multiple combinations of Styles and instruments.
It was mentioned in another thread sometime back and I explained the steps but someone stated it would be much easier to understand if it was made into a video. I don't have a computer without changing the graphics card that supports me having the ability to use a screen grabber to record a video. This morning it occurred to me I could write out the steps, save some sgu files from various stages and forward the instructions and illustrations to PGMusic and their may possibly make a video for the new Video Forum thread.
My project this morning was comprised of three midi styles and four RealStyles using elements of both the style and each styles instruments. My project was one chorus of 32 bars and had 15 instruments; eleven for the rhythm/foundation and two guitar soloists, a pedal steel and fiddle for solos and fills. I'll probably continue to work on this and put something together that hopefully the video forum staff will make a video for us.
It (unexpectedly) loaded two tracks as Silence, and then played guitar on them.
RealTracks to MIDI gives odd (unpredictable) results.
Hi Videotrack,
Right, this is what it'll look like if you try to switch between RealTracks and MIDI. RealTracks take priority, and in the sections where the MIDI style would be playing, you get the "Silence" RealTrack as a placeholder.
mmmm so i should be able to do chorus 1 with one real style then two and three with another.
i'll play around - as i say the first attempt sounds good but that may just be good luck
i've always found the track descriptions a bit flaky when you transfer from BIAB to RB and there seems no mechanism in RB to show a realtrack change half way through a song
in fact the real tracks numbers and descriptions don't always seem to match what I know is playing
i've always found the track descriptions a bit flaky when you transfer from BIAB to RB and there seems no mechanism in RB to show a realtrack change half way through a song
Also in Biab, the only place where there is an indication that the Style has changed is in the Style name at the top of the form (below the song name). There's no indication (e.g. in the Mixer) that the tracks have changed.
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Had to look that one up in a dictionary; nice one for a Pure BIAB only song title: Oxymoron Blues:
Originally Posted By: dictionary.com
oxymoron: .... noun, plural ox·y·mo·ra [ok-si-mawr-uh, -mohr-uh] /ˌɒk sɪˈmɔr ə, -ˈmoʊr ə/, ox·y·mor·ons. Rhetoric. A figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”
Might be difficult however to write (in?) congruous lyrics, unless you write about a divorce. Easier would be Moron Blues ... but thats only suitable for BIAB haters. Or indeed dedicated to an ex. Tip for a DAW: choose expensive though abandoned software like Logic or Sonar ...
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