|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 59
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 59 |
Hi Everyone! It just occured to me that I most likely placed this post into the wrong forum as I had mistakenly posted it in the powertracks forum. I hope this is the more appropiate forum to get some feedback on this my first song written using PG products...... I finally finished my first song with BIAB and PTPA-11. Used only midi with the VSTi synth in biab (no RT's) and mixed and added vocal in powertracks. Since this is my first tune created using PG music products, Would appreciate any feedback and/or comments good or bad especially technical suggestions on maybe mixing and etc. Please bear in mind, I'm just a newbie songwriter (not a singer) and a newbie here with PG products. But it sure has been fun using both BIAB & PTPA!! The song is called Comin' Home and is dedicated to our Men and Women who are serving in our armed forces. The song can be heard at: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8274381Thanks for listening and for your comments. Larry...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199 |
Hi opsvisor, This is a very good 1st attempt. I very rarely give advice on a mix of a song because I may not be that good myself  I would just give you a thought - your vocal could be stronger, more up front - by that I mean be bold when singing. It just needs more confidence. In my opinion you have the voice, use it to it's full potential. You are among a very friendly group of people on this forum and I'm sure others will give good advice. Regards Michee
Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2024 1111, Realband 2024
i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,345
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,345 |
Congratulations on you first song!
Nice changes & vox. I agree with Michee; get more confidence in the vocal.
Are you playing also?
All in all very nicely done. You can be proud.
Mick
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,122 |
Nicely done on your first attempt...
One of the tricks that I use when recording vocals, is to record at about half the normal level, and keep the monitoring phones at a somewhat low level, which allows me to sing harder to hear myself over the mix. The vocals can always be modified later in the mix. Sing it strong.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,689
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,689 |
Larry, it's a lot better than my first one, and perhaps some of the last ones. Something that I often do is to record the vox in mono and then double it. It seems to add a little punch. A touch (small touch) of reverb helps also. Keep it up. Don S.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,706
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,706 |
It has all been said above but I'd like to also add my congratulations on a wonderful first effort.
Later,
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 459
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 459 |
Nice first try, Larry. I agree with the rest of the rest of the guys, you could put a little more punch in the vocals, maybe even move the "vocals" up an octave. I like the guitar part, good pickin', but needs a tiny increase in volume during the solo. All in all, great first try.
By the way, thanks for placing yourself in harms way so we here in American can still enjoy freedom. If you haven't returned home yet, keep your head down and hurry back, we need all the good musicians we can get.
Kaj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 996
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 996 |
As others have said, congratulations on a very strong effort – particularly for your first tune Larry.
The structure is neat and purposeful and it’s obvious that the lyric is sincere and heart felt.
First part of the gtr solo (at around 1:38) doesn’t seem to quite fit the chords. Was this played or generated.
There are plenty of hints above as to the lead vocals, but I would agree they need to be strengthened a little.
Going up an octave (Kaj) might be pushing it a bit.
BTW - don't know who directed you towards SoundClick, but you made a good choice!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,900 |
Well done, Larry. Nice first effort.
Just a tip, if you work out what your vocal range is (bottom and top notes you can sing comfortably - check this against a guitar or keyboards) and plug it into BIAB using the Vocal Wizard feature, then, if you know the melody notes and have it plugged in, you can find the best key for your voice. In the case of this song, you can move it up a little to a slightly higher key (I would suggest about a third).
BTW, are those backing vocals real or is that the TC Helicon?
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,576
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,576 |
Hi Larry. And congratulations of an excellent piece of song writing and recording. There are only a couple of weak vocal spots but those can be fixed with a compressor. Try this: 1. Open your song in PTW and hi-lite the vocal track(s)
2. Click on Edit/Audio Effects
3. Select the compressor
4. In the drop down menu select the "Gentle Leveling" preset
5. Process that and give the song a listen You may have to monkey around with it a bit until it sounds strong from front to finish. There are other things you can do but this will do for now. My question is, are you now overseas? If so how did you make this recording? What mic did you use?
Russ Anyday above ground is a good day Computer is Hp Pavillion Vision 6 Ghz quad core AMD processor 8 Gig memory 1 TB hard drive 6 GB hard drive Windows 7 Premium Loose nut behind the keyboard 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 59
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 59 |
WOW! Thanks to EVERYONE for your suggestions and tips regarding this tune. It sure has given me lots to think about for projects in the furture. I will say that just getting used to using both BIAB and PTPA was quite a learning experience for this ole dog and I have to say that I know I haven't even hardly scratched the surface yet in both of those programs.
Yeah I know, I was never satisfied with the vocal on this but as I stated before I never ever considered myself any type of singer by no means. Hence the apparent lack of confidence there. I just couldn't find anyone else to lay down the vocal tracks for me. lol On top of that, I'm still building my home studio and still have a lot of stuff to upgrade yet.(little bits at a time). My vocal mic was an old cheapie radio shack mic from the mid-eighties that had been used on my old ham radio station. Not trying to make excuses here, just stating the facts lol.
To answer some of your questions, I did not play on this song at all (it's all BIAB) except the vocal and the back-up vocals were all done using the TC Helicon harmonies in powertracks.
Just a note to Kajun Jeaux. I served in both the Navy and Air Force from 1969 to 1976. So have been back at home here for over 30 years lol.
Just got into this writing and recording music thang as a hobby in my old age as I have always enjoyed playing keyboards (for myself) as a way of relieving stress.
Thanks again to ALL for listening to and commenting on my song. I will strive to get better!
Larry
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,345
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,345 |
Quote:
as I stated before I never ever considered myself any type of singer by no means.
Don't kid yourself!
Mick
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 59
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 59 |
First of all, thanks Mick for the vote of confidence!
Russell, I tried your suggestion on using the audio effects compressor on the vocal tracks and what a big difference that made! Thanks for that tip! Had no idea that would help so much, but I think it did. Will have to get the new version rendered again and converted to mp3 so I can upload it to soundclick and replace the older one.
Thanks Russell for that tip, and have a great day!
Larry
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 664
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 664 |
Great job with the singing and songwriting. The harmony vocals are really well done and add a nice touch to your song. BIAB is such a great program for songwriters. Keep 'em coming!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 262
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 262 |
Great job !
Look forward to hearing more.
The Powderman
Learning something new everyday
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac Videos
With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll also keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.
From overviews of new features and walkthroughs of the 202 new RealTracks, to highlights of XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAKs 18, the 2025 49-PAK, and in-depth tutorials — you’ll find everything you need to explore what’s new in Band-in-a-Box® 2025.
Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Mac Videos — we’ll be adding more videos as they’re released!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until July 31, 2025! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,317
Posts777,654
Members39,617
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean