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I started using Band in a Box a while back and just recently upgraded to 2009-5 and was given the download links and am waiting for discs, when downloading they all worked except two of them and when I asked for help was and am still being given a run around, I have worked as a tech and have never seen such poor tech service as I have gotten from pg music their live chat is even more useless I have spoken to about 4 others that have had the same problem when asking for help it is nevr pg music fault only the users and thagt is the help I have gotten what a waste of my time
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I'm not going to bother with this vote. So far (two years and counting) I have nothing but a heck of a support and response from the live chat (slow at times), but I think it is kind of normal for that type of service. In other words, compare to other software support I give PG a 10. I'm just saying.
Mike B.
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PGMusic has a 10 from me also!!! I also check the forum several times each day for fantastic info.
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A 10 for me also for online support at PG Music.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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10 here as well.
Now that said if you want to start over and be a little kinder I think you'll find some very good support from the extended PG Music Family right here.
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Mixed support here. One tech couldn't help and just asked if I wanted my money back.
I do love the program though. I use it regularly on gigs.
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Since you were in Tech Support, you probably had an idea what was the matter. You certainly must understand what it is like working with 'users'. From your description, you just said two of the links didn't work. Having worked in IT in the past, that is a pretty vague description and I'm hoping you worded it better with Tech Support. It sounds like your downloads were corrupted. Either try downloading the 'bad' links again or simply ask them for new links. They have been helpful for most of the times I have used them and usually go out of their way to help you solve a problem. The few times they could not assist were due to 'bugs' I reported - many of which were fixed within a very short time in the form of a patch.
And, of course, use this forum for help. I think a lot of these guys have been around longer than some in Tech Support.
Good luck,
Rachael
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Can't help wondering why I'm reminded of the Three Billy Goats Gruff..?
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya  --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
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A first post and givin a firing discourse about support? what a positive sense of sharing. Can anyone read there a "Hi" or minimally cordial greeting ? this night I am going to comment of this with grandma!
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At least it isn't spam, trying to sell us something.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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How have PGMusic given you the run around? I live in Australia - probably about as far away from Canada as possible - and I have found PGMusic absolutely brilliant to deal with. I always get electronic delivery and the couple of times that the links haven't worked, it's been because too many people were trying to use the download server at the time I tried. I waited a bit, tried again, and all was fine. In all honesty, I have not found a better company to deal with on the internet. PGMusic gets A+++++++ here from me 
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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I ran tech support for Unix systems for several LONG years. I told more than one organization that the person who was to be their admin did not have what it takes to do the job. That was almost never popular. Most software requires a lot of linear thinking. Do A then B, and C happens.
I admire people who start to use this product, and take the time to learn, ask questions, and expand their horizons. The last I looked this is a users forum, and we really don't do tech support per se. The sharing of experiences and observations has lead me to buy the Ketron SD2, a Bose L1 Model 2, and neither would have happened without the reviews and comments from other forum members.
Things that really bug me include, people who do not post what gear they have, type of internet connection, where in the world they live, and what instruments and expectations they have. In fact, if one were to come on here before purchasing, describe their set up, their goals, and give a realistic evaluation of their capabilities, well they would get all the help needed to have a potentially positive experience.
The disgruntled usually show up in various categories. Lack of any musical background, lack of savvy with computers (like where is my on switch dude?), and those with no patience with the inevitable learning curve, which is very steep with any software worth more than 200 bucks.
Lots of us even help what appear to be people who pulled the software from some feed and want to figure it out, and can't contact support.
Then there is the odd few who do not understand that Victoria Canada is like calling California, it's in a weird time zone, and they are apt to be golfing in January then going snowboarding in the mountains after lunch. Live help is fine, but they get to work around noon EST, and are still there after supper.
If you are stressed, lack patience, have learning problems, and are looking for a fast way to get a back up band shop for music minus one books, there are lots. Just stick the CD in the player and jam away. No need to understand midi, interfaces, evaluate swing or straight styles.
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Welcome to the forum, magicspyder.
I have never had a single problem with tech support from PG Music. Yes, sometimes the online facility takes a little time to get through but it does work. While you are waiting for the connection, you could always take the time to read the manual. You know, that is what it is there for.
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
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To Magicspyder,
A sincere welcome to the PG music forums. I will do my best to show you why this is THE friendliest forum on the net that I know of.
On a side note, I did work in a Tech support job for over 2 years. During that time, I was cussed at and called every name in the book more times than I can count, and still gave stellar service without being rude or unprofessional in return.
I have been using PG music products since version 1 of BIAB on the Atari. Many times I would call them for support. Since 1990, I have called or emailed them well over 100 times. In EVERY case, I was treated with respect and my issues were resolved in a timely manner. In fact, there have been times when I've been sent new disks for free when I had a problem, and this includes my latest disks which were shipped to Mexico FREE of charge.
I compare this with the support I should have received from other music Software companies, there is no comparison.
Then there is the forum here at PG music. A more friendly helpful group of people you just won't find ANYWHERE else on the net. There's no rudeness, insults, or bickering, just thoughtful tips, and problem solving. Sure, people disagree on certain points at times and that's a good thing, what 's different here is the TONE of the posts.
If you don't mind a positive suggestion, I would ask you to call or use live help again, explain your issues and ask for the team lead if you do not get your issue resolved. And as always, there are lots of people here, including Peter Gannon himself, who take the time to help and seem to really care.
I understand your frustration, but give my suggestion a shot and see if it can't be resolved!
Hope this helps you,
Ed
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Amen, Ed!!!
Support couldn't be better! Perfect 10!
Cheers,
Mike
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No problems yet, but it's only been 5 or so years.  However I am sure they will get you fixed up in the not too distant future. Also it can't hurt to ask a question or two here on the forum. Oh yes, welcome aboard. Later,
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Magicspyder don't be afraid you can come out. We won't hurt you.
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XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
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Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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