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Hi, something I have never had the need for just occurred. I have a song with 2 bars of lead in melody but BIAB only shows 1 bar of lead in melody even though the count in BIAB provides is 2 bars. How might I show two bars so I can enter that melody?

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Hi, something I have never had the need for just occurred. I have a song with 2 bars of lead in melody but BIAB only shows 1 bar of lead in melody even though the count in BIAB provides is 2 bars. How might I show two bars so I can enter that melody?

I you set the chorus to start at Bar 3 instead of 1 does that achieve what you want?

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John:

If you open the Piano Roll window, you'll see 2 bars BEFORE bar one.
They are indicated as Bar -1 and Bar 0 (zero).
You could try entering your melody there.

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I you set the chorus to start at Bar 3 instead of 1 does that achieve what you want?


Hi VideoTrack, I think it is too late to try that now.


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Originally Posted By: Lloyd S

If you open the Piano Roll window, you'll see 2 bars BEFORE bar one.
They are indicated as Bar -1 and Bar 0 (zero).
You could try entering your melody there.


Thanks Lloyd,

I opened the piano roll and I see the bars you mentioned. I played around a bit to try and figure out how to enter notes but had no success. It has been a long day. I will give it a shot tomorrow after some sleep :-)


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John:

In the BIAB Help file, under the Index tab is an entry called Piano Roll Tutorial that will be helpful.
In a nutshell, when you open the Piano Roll, you hold down the Shift and Ctrl keys at the same time,
then click anywhere (or where you want) on the Piano Roll grid to enter a note.

Good luck!
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Thank you Lloyd, I will probably give it another run later today. The email will remind me. I will let you know how I did. For now I need to fix a computer program bug I just found in my website :-( John


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I got it to work Lloyd. This is so cool. Thanks again.

It is too bad the first bar of the two bar count in won't show up on the lead sheet print. I am going to try a variant on VideoTrack's idea. It just occurred to me maybe I could insert 2 bars and everything should just shove forward including the chorus bars. If not I could just adjust them.


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With the two bar insert your approach worked too VideoTrack. Everything shifted. However this time the leadsheet shows the notes.

You guys are great. Thanks so much. BIAB is great. Some of the guys in my jam club who don't have BIAB know it is very powerful but they use cheaper less featured backing track software. I tell them I would never use any other software for the jam club. I wish I could get them all using BIAB. This gives me more info I can use to maybe convince them.


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Glad you got it to work for you.
VideoTrack is an invaluable source of info! (Is that the same as "valuable"??!?).

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Originally Posted By: Lloyd S
VideoTrack is an invaluable source of info! (Is that the same as "valuable"??!?).


Google and YouTube know everything :-)

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Valuable vs. Invaluable. We think of valuable as meaning "having a great deal of value," as in "valuable jewelry" or "learned a valuable lesson." Invaluable, on the other hand, means "valuable beyond estimation.

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Glad you got it working John. I hadn't realized that the song had already been established. Yes, shift everything down by 2 bars was the right direction to take.


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