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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
You should be able to select your Yamaha driver. Then select a different synth for the rest of your midi instruments.

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Hi Bob,

My Yamaha driver does NOT appear in that list :-(

How can I fix that?


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hi

See my post above !


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Originally Posted By: Mike Head
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See my post above !


I see it but there seems no direct solution?

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Try this: Set the external synth as the main midi driver. Then, in the mixer as described above, set the non-piano tracks to softsynth of choice.

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Try this: Set the external synth as the main midi driver. Then, in the mixer as described above, set the non-piano tracks to softsynth of choice.

Ron

Does not work. I tried that yesterday already. The pop help also states that the main output driver will only be used for MIDI Thru when the VSTi/DXi is enabled/ticked. In this case, it will route input from the piano via MIDI IN back to MIDI Thru and out via the piano driver back to the piano.


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I've had a number of conversations with Paul Warren, the originator of MidiRedirect, over the years. Sadly, Paul got tied up with many other projects and did not have the time nor the complier to convert MidiRedirect to 64 bit.

But, I can confirm that it still works fine with jBridge v1.7b3 in the 64 bit version of BIAB 2019.

I typically run MIDI out from BIAB to both of my hardsynths, using the MidiRedirect, and run RealTracks all at the same time in the same song. Running out to your keyboard should be no different. All that you would need would be to have a patch listing for you keyboard in .PAT file form in BIAB to be able to select the patch you want played from the keyboard.

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I think i found the problem, that Yamaha doesn't support midi over USB. It seems the USB connection is for controlling internal functions from a tablet or computer but it's not a midi controller. In the Features list it says Midi...No. Check the users manual to be sure.

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Here is what the manual for the P-115 says on page 24. Looks capable, right?

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How about drivers? Do you have them install? Just checkin... Is the 32 vrs 64 bit versions matching BIAB?

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Of course it is capable. It supports MIDI over USB fully and I already have that working just fine.
The problem is not with Yamaha.


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But, I can confirm that it still works fine with jBridge v1.7b3 in the 64 bit version of BIAB 2019.

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Where can I get it from?


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The VSTi to MIDI redirect VST that Dan pointed you to with a link earlier in this thread is a great solution for this problem. I tested it out and it worked perfectly for playing simultaneously through an external MIDI module and soft synths / RealTracks. It worked with bbw.exe and also bbw64.exe (64bit) via jBridge. You will want to use WAS audio drivers and not MME, otherwise latency will be an issue.

To use, place the .dll in your preferred VST location, for example, C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins. In Band-in-a-Box, open the Plugins window, click on the top drop-down box, select Add VSTi Plugin, and locate the file. Now you can add that plugin to whichever track you want to route to your piano, and it should show the MIDI out port, provided the driver is installed. On Windows 10, driver installation is typically automatic when you plug in a USB device.

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hi Andrew that's great news

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Originally Posted By: Andrew - PG Music
The VSTi to MIDI redirect VST that Dan pointed you to with a link earlier in this thread is a great solution for this problem.


Hi Andrew,
Do you have a working download link for Dan's solution?

The link on the site listed by DAN ends up here:
http://hgsoft.dlinkddns.com/Downloads/VSTiToMidi_100.zip

and that does not work.



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Well that don't sound right. I have the file and I put it in a dropbox. Let me try again.

OK, dropbox is just being a total uncooperative pain with a link to a small zip folder which has the .dll and a text file. It is there, and on my desktop, but I cannot seem to download with any of the dropbox links.

If you PM me I am sure I can put the zipped folder in an email and send.


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/kn1xuhrky21zpg2/VSTiToMidi_101.jpg.zip?dl=0

This should work to view and download the zipped folder. You just have to navigate Dropbox. Problems can arise from your antivirus programs or from any number of other securities which exist (google chrome will hold this up and ask if you are sure, before fully downloading). Or PM me for an email.


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This is what confuses me about a consumer home keyboard vs a stage keyboard. That Features list I found listed everything that unit has and when I scrolled down to midi it said No. Now the manual talks about drivers and USB to Host? Maybe it will work but any semi pro keyboard makes it clear what it can do by referring to using it as a midi controller acting as a slave or sound module. If it does require a separate driver then make sure it's been installed but normally just plugging in the USB cable is all it takes because modern controllers are class compliant meaning no driver required.

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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
This is what confuses me about a consumer home keyboard vs a stage keyboard. That Features list I found listed everything that unit has and when I scrolled down to midi it said No. Now the manual talks about drivers and USB to Host? Maybe it will work but any semi pro keyboard makes it clear what it can do by referring to using it as a midi controller acting as a slave or sound module. If it does require a separate driver then make sure it's been installed but normally just plugging in the USB cable is all it takes because modern controllers are class compliant meaning no driver required.

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I think they mean NO to MIDI DIN connectors/ports. That would be right since it has USB-MIDI only.


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/kn1xuhrky21zpg2/VSTiToMidi_101.jpg.zip?dl=0

This should work to view and download the zipped folder. You just have to navigate Dropbox. Problems can arise from your antivirus programs or from any number of other securities which exist (google chrome will hold this up and ask if you are sure, before fully downloading). Or PM me for an email.


Yes, thank you, I have it and will work on it on the weekend again.
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Ok folks,

I have liftoff!!
The redirector works.

I have a problem now with latency between the realtracks style and the piano playing the melody via MIDI.


I think the piano is ahead of the realtracks audio. It could be the other way round but I am fairly sure.

Does anyone know how I can somehow adjust the latency for this?


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